Gaz
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Barends, pegs, mirrors, exhaust, the lot 
I know - I mean why would someone buy an 1100 in this day and age?![]()

Now your thinking straight...... remember, you have all the history of your bike, you know how good of a base vehicle it is, so invest and make it better, ie, to suit the need you have in mind.
This is not correct.
KTM market there bike's weight as dry, without stating it and most other manufacturers market their bike's weight as wet, ie, with 80% or over fuel capacity and with engine oil and coolant in.
The difference in weight between a 690 and XC approx 5 kilo...... google it if you don't believe me......![]()


Both he and I get excited at the prospect of riding our 640 ADVs, do you get that same feeling riding an XChallenge or is it a ride to Snoozeville.
Depends how fast you ride it across Mongolia Tim![]()
....either will much faster than any big GS
Yeah but....the 1100 is my washing machine![]()

This is not correct.
KTM market there bike's weight as dry, without stating it and most other manufacturers market their bike's weight as wet, ie, with 80% or over fuel capacity and with engine oil and coolant in.
The difference in weight between a 690 and XC approx 5 kilo...... google it if you don't believe me......![]()
So how does the 640 vs 690 vs XChallenge compare in real world weight then? And would any of them really provide a noticeable/significant benefit in the gnarly stuff over my HP?


That might explain the colour![]()
So how does the 640 vs 690 vs XChallenge compare in real world weight then? And would any of them really provide a noticeable/significant benefit in the gnarly stuff over my HP?


A change of colour is under way![]()
The HP2 would be so far behind you'd never know
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Good to hear
Maybe I can get the local dealer to let me try one for a few hours and see if I can really see the difference. The biggest appeal is getting a something approaching a proper dirt bike that doesn't need an oil change every few hours - I simply don't have the time for that.