LARGER DIGITAL SPEEDO

[batman1]

That's is absolutely correct, all four choices of display and simultaneously....
1x Analogue.
2x Digital one above the other on the bikes LCD
1x in various formats on the Nav.

 

[bergboxer]

Thanks to all the replys, Fred jb how is your speed hud powered?

 

[mikef]

As far as I can tell Givi don't offer an AirFlow screen for the GS LC model, but like you I have had them on other bikes and found them very effective. On one previous bike where Givi didn't offer an AirFlow screen I made my own by buying the AirFlow secondary screen and attachment clamps as spare parts on eBay, and very carefully measuring and fitting the AirFlow against the base screen before drilling the main clamp holes.

Bugger I thought you were going to say that you'd bought the old complete Airflow screen and simply drilled some new holes for the LC mounting brackets but obviously you've cleverly created a hybrid screen which is going to be beyond my hamfisted DIY skills. In the absence of any product from Givi, you should go into business

 

[fred_jb]

Thanks to all the replys, Fred jb how is your speed hud powered?

I have a couple of 12V to USB adapters taken off a previous bike, so wired their 12V cables into a DIN plug which goes into the socket on the right of the cockpit. The adapters have USB sockets with waterproof covers on the end of wires so these are just tied into convenient positions with the little converter blocks tucked away in the fairing. One powers the HUD, the other will power my Sony ActionCam when I sort out a mount for it. You can also get dual USB adaptors which plug directly into the DIN socket, but these are a lot more expensive (£15-£20) than the more common ones which plug into car type 12V sockets.

Fred

 

[fred_jb]

Bugger I thought you were going to say that you'd bought the old complete Airflow screen and simply drilled some new holes for the LC mounting brackets but obviously you've cleverly created a hybrid screen which is going to be beyond my hamfisted DIY skills. In the absence of any product from Givi, you should go into business

Sorry about that, but thought I better make clear that it is not a super easy job. Probably be just as difficult, if not more so, to adapt the old GS AirFlow as you would have to put four new holes in it very precisely placed.

I think it would be too nerve wracking to do them for other people - one slip of the drill and you could write off someone's expensive base screen!

 

[fred_jb]

PS: Maybe it would be possible to persuade SlipScreens to pre-drill mounting holes for the AirFlow with a proper jig, in one of their screens, as it might get them a few more sales. I would be happy to send them photos of mine to give them an idea of what is required.

 

[fred_jb]

Thanks to all the replys, Fred jb how is your speed hud powered?

I should also mention in case you are thinking of fitting one of these that it does not come with a RAM ball mount on the back. I had a spare one with a flat plate which I superglued and araldited to the back of the HUD unit. I also superglued the rear cover on to the HUD unit as it comes off fairly easily. Did about 400 miles on Saturday and it didn't fall off so I think it is going to be OK!

 

[harry]

Sorry - should have made it clear that I was replying to iand46 who had suggested setting the full screen speed display on the Nav V, and with that I assume a bit of wonderwheel twiddling would be needed every time you wanted to see the map and revert to speedo display. Your suggestion is how I have my satnav set, and I do sometimes find the red display when exceeding the speed limit useful, though I need to have a look to see if I can turn off the audible alerts as every time it beeps it cuts off the Sena intercomm link to my wife.

However, I find that display just a bit small to take in at a glance if I just want to quickly check my speed. I don't need glasses for distance but do need them for reading, so a bigger display is a big benefit to me and avoids me having to wear bifocals for driving - it's not that I can't read the display at all without glasses, but it takes that bit longer to get it in focus - obviously not everyone has the same requirement.

Fred

Fred, I too have to wear reading glasses perched on the end of my nose when riding and using the Gps. The larger figures on your Gps speedo would suit me well. I'm a little worried that riding through torrential would do to what is essentially a car instrument. Or have you some means of waterproofing it?

 

[jojitsu]

I use a free speedometer app on my Android phone (5 inch), that's attached to the handlebars with a RAM mount and a waterproof phone case, very big and clear and it's somewhere handy to put your phone whilst riding.. I'd post a photo if I knew how!

 

[jojitsu]

Here, if it works!

 

[Packer]

How accurate is that app compared with the sat-nav Jojitsu?

 

[jojitsu]

Seems perfectly accurate thus far, they are both using a GPS chip, and the phone will be a more current chip. I starting using it recently tho, so haven't done much testing.. It's very clear, tells you max speed so far etc, lots of different colours, portrait or landscape.. All good.

 

[fred_jb]

Hi,

You are right that it is not waterproof, though there are no openings in back, but it is mounted in a quite sheltered spot, and of course I always have the option of taking it off and stowing in the tank bag if it gets really bad. Also at the end the day it cost less than £20 inc postage so not the end of the world if it breaks. Demon Tweaks sell a very similar item for £79 but I don't think that is waterproof either.

 

[harry]

Hi,

You are right that it is not waterproof, though there are no openings in back, but it is mounted in a quite sheltered spot, and of course I always have the option of taking it off and stowing in the tank bag if it gets really bad. Also at the end the day it cost less than £20 inc postage so not the end of the world if it breaks. Demon Tweaks sell a very similar item for £79 but I don't think that is waterproof either.

Thanks, ordered one!

 

[matchlessman]

Like this ?

To jump from this to map and back again is just a push / pull with the jog wheel. I have the map most of the time, but round Nottingham ring road or where cameras abound I just flick to speedo.

Difficult to rely on the accuracy of a sat nav for instantaneous speed. Its down to the frequency of satellite updates, which can't keep up with the bikes acceleration. OK if you are at a constant speed, but otherwise quite a lag. Still better than the tiny numbers on the proper speedo tho. I might be resorting to little white stickers.

 

[fred_jb]

To jump from this to map and back again is just a push / pull with the jog wheel. I have the map most of the time, but round Nottingham ring road or where cameras abound I just flick to speedo.

Difficult to rely on the accuracy of a sat nav for instantaneous speed. Its down to the frequency of satellite updates, which can't keep up with the bikes acceleration. OK if you are at a constant speed, but otherwise quite a lag. Still better than the tiny numbers on the proper speedo tho. I might be resorting to little white stickers.

Yes - agreed regarding GPS based systems and instantaneous speed, but I'm not too bothered about the display keeping up with acceleration. As you say, you only really need the speedo in speed limit areas likely to have cameras or average speed monitoring, when you are likely to be going at a steady speed anyway. The more expensive GPS speedos, like the Demon Tweeks one, advertise a fast update of every 1/10th second, but having said that, the cheap one I bought does pretty well and only lags very briefly.

Fred

 

[Neil W]

My take on the problem (using same unit as fred_ jb ) of the massive amounts of glare from the dials and illegibilty of the speedometer numbering on my 2014 GSA, this was just to see if it would work in this position and have little or no glare.

At the moment it consists of a couple of old GoPro mounts, as it seems to be fine I will leave the GoPro sticky pad and mount on the rear of the GPS speedo and make up an alloy mount that picks up on the rear of the BMW GPS mount.

I will also sort out a much shorter and waterproof USB lead and find some way of waterproofing the GPS Speedo whilst keeping it legible.

 

[fred_jb]

My take on the problem (using same unit as fred_ jb ) of the massive amounts of glare from the dials and illegibilty of the speedometer numbering on my 2014 GSA, this was just to see if it would work in this position and have little or no glare.

At the moment it consists of a couple of old GoPro mounts, as it seems to be fine I will leave the GoPro sticky pad and mount on the rear of the GPS speedo and make up an alloy mount that picks up on the rear of the BMW GPS mount.

I will also sort out a much shorter and waterproof USB lead and find some way of waterproofing the GPS Speedo whilst keeping it legible.

I like the idea of the GoPro mount - potentially less of a faff to remove than my RAM mount, as I assume you don't have to reset the angle and position every time you replace it.

I found I could set mine to be angled slightly with the top nearer than the bottom to minimise glare, and because of the big digits it remained perfectly legible.

 

[Neil W]

Set the go pro mounts and then it just clips in and out

 

[steveC]

cost zero

I used to have a LC and like others found the speedo to be an ornament. The clarity of display is poor.

I keep my old mobile phones and thought I would like to see how that would look with a speedo app downloaded. A quick search found one, big numbers and choice of mph/kph. Landscape or portrait. Free of course

The phone was a iPhone 3g so probably 7 years old. I got a free SIM card from virgin on PAYG and popped that in. No money was put on it. The privacy/location service must be on.

It works fine and a old ram mount with case does the job.

Whilst it works fine in the UK I don't know how it will perform abroad. But for those who want a large speedo read out and have an old phone lying about its an option with a attractive price ticket.