Lazy-ish starter, easy to remove?

Which is only slightly cheaper than the £80 motorworks want !
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I think when I looked it was £130 or thereabouts! But they use top notch marine grade cables, connectors etc. Still a lot of dosh though.
Still not sure why you would connect them in parallel though rather than just replacing the whole lot? Anyone know why?
 
I think when I looked it was £130 or thereabouts! But they use top notch marine grade cables, connectors etc. Still a lot of dosh though.
Still not sure why you would connect them in parallel though rather than just replacing the whole lot? Anyone know why?
Cos it's a faf to route them the same way. The 2ndary run is the shortest route possible

And you have to tape the other ends up etc. Again another faf
 
Same issue here. Starter was getting lazy and I had noticeable voltage drop. Ended up buying a new starter + cable kit from Motorworks.
Expensive cables… but wow – totally worth it.
The quality is on another level, and the difference is very noticeable.
Now the old cow actually sounds like it wants to start again 😄Wile the starter was off, I measured the cluch plates to be approx 5.4 mm at 132,000 km, which seems very healthy. No signs of oil contamination either, so that was reassuring.
 
Is there an uprated battery over the OEM that people have used with success? In case a new battery is needed...
If you're feeling flush, I suggest getting an Alliant LiPo battery (sportsbikeshop do them).
Aside from the very cold weather foibles which, when understood, are hardly a downside, I can't recommend them enough.
I have just sold my 7yr old one for £50. It still has 62% 'health'. I only changed it to a higher amp hour version to ensure my accessories are coped with in winter at idle (in traffic).
It started the bike like a new battery and fully serviced starter for the last 7yrs. I've never serviced the starter....
 
If you're feeling flush, I suggest getting an Alliant LiPo battery (sportsbikeshop do them).
Aside from the very cold weather foibles which, when understood, are hardly a downside, I can't recommend them enough.
I have just sold my 7yr old one for £50. It still has 62% 'health'. I only changed it to a higher amp hour version to ensure my accessories are coped with in winter at idle (in traffic).
It started the bike like a new battery and fully serviced starter for the last 7yrs. I've never serviced the starter....
Which spec did you go for? I only have a Chigee, aux lights and heated grips as extras.
 
If you're feeling flush, I suggest getting an Alliant LiPo battery (sportsbikeshop do them).
Aside from the very cold weather foibles which, when understood, are hardly a downside, I can't recommend them enough.
I have just sold my 7yr old one for £50. It still has 62% 'health'. I only changed it to a higher amp hour version to ensure my accessories are coped with in winter at idle (in traffic).
It started the bike like a new battery and fully serviced starter for the last 7yrs. I've never serviced the starter....
I have a Noco lithium, its in the shed,

I get the cold starting , and it's as you say not an issue once known .

But it comes with a caveat , they battery will not accept a charge if the ambient temp is too low

I do winter trips, Bike , spots, Nav, heated clothing , grips , etc

Last thing i need is a non charging battery due to ""computer says no" to the ambient temps kicking in

So i went back to AGM :(
 
Which spec did you go for? I only have a Chigee, aux lights and heated grips as extras.
I 'upgraded' to the YLP24. But the previous version was the YLP18, which is more than adequate.

I calculated the 24 would easily handle EVERYTHING being switched on, in traffic, for more than half an hour. Am unlikely scenario, but I paid for peace of mind in the end
 
I have a Noco lithium, its in the shed,

I get the cold starting , and it's as you say not an issue once known .

But it comes with a caveat , they battery will not accept a charge if the ambient temp is too low

I do winter trips, Bike , spots, Nav, heated clothing , grips , etc

Last thing i need is a non charging battery due to ""computer says no" to the ambient temps kicking in

So i went back to AGM :(
Not once have I bumped into a charging issue. In fact I have never ever put the battery on a trickle charger - in any bike I've owned.

One feature - supposedly - of lithium batteries is that they will hold their charge far longer and more reliably than a conventional lead acid or AGM battery. So far. I'd have to agree.

They only reason I changed was following my recent adventure, which some of you have read about. During that I did the maths and found the hole in running - ie. A big ask of the alternator in winter, at idle, with everything switched on.

Surely if you're using the bike regularly, there would be no need to charge it? Or is your reg/rectifier also making a gentle exit, a bit like mine did?!
 
Not once have I bumped into a charging issue. In fact I have never ever put the battery on a trickle charger - in any bike I've owned.

One feature - supposedly - of lithium batteries is that they will hold their charge far longer and more reliably than a conventional lead acid or AGM battery. So far. I'd have to agree.

They only reason I changed was following my recent adventure, which some of you have read about. During that I did the maths and found the hole in running - ie. A big ask of the alternator in winter, at idle, with everything switched on.

Surely if you're using the bike regularly, there would be no need to charge it? Or is your reg/rectifier also making a gentle exit, a bit like mine did?!
No , but if I was running back from Strontian to home. And the temps stayed below the trip point to charge the battery, I doubt the battery would give 12hrs of electrons to power the Bike
Heated grips
Heated leggings
Heated top
Heated gloves
Heated grips
FO spots
Tab nav
Cameras
 
No , but if I was running back from Strontian to home. And the temps stayed below the trip point to charge the battery, I doubt the battery would give 12hrs of electrons to power the Bike
Heated grips
Heated leggings
Heated top
Heated gloves
Heated grips
FO spots
Tab nav
Cameras
You're running much like myself. Until last Nov/Dec, therefore about 7yrs on that first battery, I never had a single problem - multiple trips to Italy, winter, spring, summer and everything in between.

The day before I broke down, it had been -8° the entire way through Switzerland, -3° lower down in Italy. Max temp was -1° the entire day. Just glad it was the following day I broke down 😅

I'm unclear though. Have you actually had an issue or it's your fear of having one (with the battery)?
 
You're running much like myself. Until last Nov/Dec, therefore about 7yrs on that first battery, I never had a single problem - multiple trips to Italy, winter, spring, summer and everything in between.

The day before I broke down, it had been -8° the entire way through Switzerland, -3° lower down in Italy. Max temp was -1° the entire day. Just glad it was the following day I broke down 😅

I'm unclear though. Have you actually had an issue or it's your fear of having one (with the battery)?
Fear of, i changed back to a new Motobatt, the Noco is my backup / jumpstart battery when on a trip :D it takes up little room in a pannier and weighs sod all
 
Fear of, i changed back to a new Motobatt, the Noco is my backup / jumpstart battery when on a trip :D it takes up little room in a pannier and weighs sod all
Can't argue with that. They are amazingly light and can literally be carried as a backup as you say!

Right now I'm bought into Alliant based on experience so far. It looks like you might get what you pay for...

As I mentioned earlier, the old battery started the bike reliably and like it was new every time, for years - actually it never stopped doing that. Low temperatures need a little patience, but that side I'm a very happy customer

***Update. Literally just had a sale's email from Motorworks. Seems they are also selling Aliant 👍🏻
 
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