LC Seat comfort ?? anyone got any suggestions

I have a BMW low seat on my GSA LC set in the high position at the front and an Air Hawk. I find the lower seat in the high position brings the seat flatter preventing me from sliding forward and crushing my nuts. Of course if you have long enough legs you can run the stock seat in high. The Air Hawk for me is a god send. I've just come back from 3000 miles around Europe with a few 350+ mile days completed without any problems. On a standard GS or GSA seat my backside is calling time after 100 miles max.

I've taken to using the Airhawk (neoprene one) from the first ride, rather than waiting until I've got a sore backside. Works for me. I don't fix it to the seat either, which works for me too. Just mt 5/10ths.


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I don't fix it to the seat either, which works for me too. Just mt 5/10ths.


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If I'm doing big mileages the Airhawk goes on straight away, it's a no brainer. No point getting a sore arse then fitting it.

A plus point of the low seat on the GSA is that it can be removed without lifting the pillion seat, so fitting and removing the Airhawk is now dead easy even when you've got luggage strapped across the pillion seat. Not that it got removed much anyway apart from at the end of the day.
 
Seat comfort

Another vote here for having the front seat on high at the front so it levels the seat out. Then move the rear seat forward. Then use the airhawk all day comfort then as long as it's not inflated much.
 
I've had both bikes and seats you refer to. The seat on the latest TBGSA is much firmer than the one that was on the TBGS

Yes, because it's a different fucking seat :blast

Or put another way:

Before I had my Triple Black GS I had a 2014 GSA and the seat on the 2014 GSA is exactly the same (apart from the cover) to the seat fitted to a 2017 Triple Black GSA so I'm still at a loss to understand why I will be sorry? :nenau
 
After reading this thread I adjusted the seat to the high front setting as somebody suggested and it seemed to make a big difference to the aching butt .... I have a sheep skin too which was £25 well spent.

It pushed me further back in the seat and that seemed to take some of the pressure off .
 
Here's another vote for trying the seat in the upper position in front and the lower position at the rear. This sits you slightly further back in the wider, more comfortable part of the seat, and the pillion seat gives you a small back rest.


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+1.

( a shame because if you have long legs , this leaves them cramped as on a sport bike! ) However I agree its the best way to set up the seat.
 
After reading this thread I adjusted the seat to the high front setting as somebody suggested and it seemed to make a big difference to the aching butt .... I have a sheep skin too which was £25 well spent.

It pushed me further back in the seat and that seemed to take some of the pressure off .

+1

Had several painful journeys but with the seat high at the front and low at the back its loads better, nearly as comfy as the KTM 990 now ;-)
 
On advice from this thread I too have gone from high high to high front / low back and it certainly makes a difference.
I also run a sheepskin.
The only problem is by lowering the back it puts a little more bend on my knees and they don't like that.
I think a trip to Tony Archer is on the cards to get the front built up.
 
Funny, I found the LC GSA seat to be initially softer and more comfortable but much worse than the LC GS seat over any reasonable distance. An Airhawk on the LC seat with high front and low back was just about OK for 300+ mile days. Why they don't just put on the same pan flat, nicely proportioned seat from one of their tourers beats me - or at least offer a flat seat as all the standard seats have a stupid forward slope - presumably to aid getting one's feet down. Sargent seats etc are OK but they keep the same relative seat height whilst lifting the front by about 1.5cm - which means if you're already teetering it end up almost unmanageable. It's also worth saying that BMW are not alone in putting uncomfortable seats on and adventure bike - I found the crosstourer and tiger explorer seats to be just as bad.
 
At the moment I am finding the seat on the GS LC okay, providing I stop after about an hour and half to 2 hours to stretch the legs.
A question about the risers, do they make that much of a differences? As I do find I get an ache across the top of the shoulders.
 
They did on the GSA - oddly on the GS no shoulder ache but on the GSA the ache would appear after about 30-40 minutes. Wunderlich up and back risers sorted it as I worked out that I was sitting about 1.5 inches further from the bars on the GSA. As they are up as well as back they tend to make you sit more upright - which can make the forward slope on the seat feel worse.
 
I use a dan medics pad, I like it a lot, oddly the GSA material gives my fantastic arse sweat after big miles, likes my shuck has been sandpapered
 
Funny, I found the LC GSA seat to be initially softer and more comfortable but much worse than the LC GS seat over any reasonable distance. An Airhawk on the LC seat with high front and low back was just about OK for 300+ mile days. Why they don't just put on the same pan flat, nicely proportioned seat from one of their tourers beats me - or at least offer a flat seat as all the standard seats have a stupid forward slope - presumably to aid getting one's feet down. Sargent seats etc are OK but they keep the same relative seat height whilst lifting the front by about 1.5cm - which means if you're already teetering it end up almost unmanageable. It's also worth saying that BMW are not alone in putting uncomfortable seats on and adventure bike - I found the crosstourer and tiger explorer seats to be just as bad.

When I had an Explorer a mate of mine borrowed my re worked seat. I had it lifted at the front and slightly wider at the back.
He loved it and being as he is a research and development test rider for triumph and has over 50k miles in on the Explorer he could see what an improvement it was. So he took photos and measurements and took the info back to triumph. He was testing the prototype mk2 Explorer about a year before it went in to production.
There response was its not as aesthetically pleasing as the seat they designed so it wouldn't get changed.
Now it was only 1.5 inch higher at the front but the designers like the way the seat flows down then the lines flow up the tank. The seat designer doesn't ride a bike by the way.
After much pressing the mk2 Explorer came out with a seat about halfway between the original one and mine.
 
Now it was only 1.5 inch higher at the front but the designers like the way the seat flows down then the lines flow up the tank. The seat designer doesn't ride a bike by the way.
After much pressing the mk2 Explorer came out with a seat about halfway between the original one and mine.

Wouldn't that extra 1.5 inches push an already tall bike into an even more height-restricted market?
 
I'm 6 foot with a long body and short legs and never had a problem and I used the high setting because it was better for me knees.
Better for my nuts too because I was no longer sliding down the seat in to the tank.
 
Sadly I have had enough of the uncomfortable GS seat allthough I love the bike. My poblem is that my Coccyx becomes painfull after 2 hours or about 100+ miles. I can get off and stretch legs etc. but once it has started it dosnt go away to the point that it affects my riding. I just finsished the Ride tour of the High Passes 9 days 2,200 miles. Each day was a slightly more painfull day than before. My final solution was Airhawk on front seat remove rear seat and sit with my bum off the back of the saddle in the space where the rear seat had taken. I have fiddled with Handlebar position and all seat height options and have reached the point where I think I will sell the GS.

But before I do that I was wondering whether anybody had experience of the Rallye seat? its seems to me that it actually slopes away at the rear and so means that the Coccyx are is not in as much contact with the saddle as the stadard seat.

Any other sugestions welcome, but if no solution I will go back to a sports Bike as I have no numb bum issues with the position on these.
 
Update on an earlier posting. I have the aftermarket low 'Comfort' seat on my TB. High at front low at rear and an Airhawk to supplement. Did a mere 250 miles on Sunday from East Yorks up to Hawes via the Buttertubs. The first part of the journey seemed to be ok in the seating department but as the day wore on so did the ache in my harris requiring shuffling and a stop and stretch more frequently. The pain seems to be at the point my hip bone touches the seat. Time to consider something else. I'm wondering whether to go softer on the seat foam. When I hear the words 'all day comfort' I'm really wondering is there such a thing.
 
Sadly I have had enough of the uncomfortable GS seat allthough I love the bike. My poblem is that my Coccyx becomes painfull after 2 hours or about 100+ miles. I can get off and stretch legs etc. but once it has started it dosnt go away to the point that it affects my riding. I just finsished the Ride tour of the High Passes 9 days 2,200 miles. Each day was a slightly more painfull day than before. My final solution was Airhawk on front seat remove rear seat and sit with my bum off the back of the saddle in the space where the rear seat had taken. I have fiddled with Handlebar position and all seat height options and have reached the point where I think I will sell the GS.



But before I do that I was wondering whether anybody had experience of the Rallye seat? its seems to me that it actually slopes away at the rear and so means that the Coccyx are is not in as much contact with the saddle as the stadard seat.

Any other sugestions welcome, but if no solution I will go back to a sports Bike as I have no numb bum issues with the position on these.

You are a bit far away from me to try my Rallye seat, but I would suggest you see if you could borrow one first
I have recently come back from the Stella Alpina to Lancashire on mine in one go no problem, and have even done LEJOG there and back in 40 hours on mine
It seems to help that you can move about on them quite easily, I also find my pivot pegs also help when I am moving about on the seat
I tried a Airhawk once and was not in the least impressed so its all down to individual butt shapes and pain thresholds
Hope this helps
 


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