Lithium v Acid

I think the YTZ14 has higher cranking amps and is the same size as the OEM with the polystyrene block under it

I took the polystyrene block out of mine and fitted a YTX14

For info, the BS just means bottle supplied, where you get the acid to fill yourself, I bought a factory conditioned (so filled at the factory) which I think they are moving towards because of regulation on selling and transporting acid
 
The Yuasa YTZ14S is a much more expensive gel battery , come already activated and can be laid on it’s side etc it’s not the same as a YTX14 . It’s exactly the Same battery in my Crosstourer which I replaced last year Like for like after 8 years of service and it was still going . My Husky battery (Haiju) has already died at 18months old …replaced with a new Yuasa . I don’t have a problem with Lithium , I have one on my CCM . No issues whatsoever if kept on a Lithium maintenance charger. I wouldn’t buy the JMT lithium batteries though , I’m told they are cheap for a reason and don’t have some of the protective circuitry in them that other have brands have.
 
Don't you need to be very carefull about the charging voltage with a lithium battery ?
Between 13.4 V and 14.6V anything else no good.
I would stick to an acid battery
 
Not a good idea to charge a lithium battery below 5c, so might be a problem for those who use their bikes in cold weather.
 
Rushy said:
The Yuasa YTZ14S is a much more expensive gel battery , come already activated and can be laid on it’s side etc it’s not the same as a YTX14 . It’s exactly the Same battery in my Crosstourer which I replaced last year Like for like after 8 years of service and it was still going . My Husky battery (Haiju) has already died at 18months old …replaced with a new Yuasa . I don’t have a problem with Lithium , I have one on my CCM . No issues whatsoever if kept on a Lithium maintenance charger. I wouldn’t buy the JMT lithium batteries though , I’m told they are cheap for a reason and don’t have some of the protective circuitry in them that other have brands have.
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an AGM battery can be fitted on its side
see https://www.yuasa.co.uk/ytx14-bs.html which states it is "sealed and spill proof"
 
Paul G (BHT) said:
Not a good idea to charge a lithium battery below 5c, so might be a problem for those who use their bikes in cold weather.
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Think it’s okay with trickle charge, but not with alternator.


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Rushy said:
The Yuasa YTZ14S is a much more expensive gel battery , come already activated and can be laid on it’s side etc it’s not the same as a YTX14 . It’s exactly the Same battery in my Crosstourer which I replaced last year Like for like after 8 years of service and it was still going . My Husky battery (Haiju) has already died at 18months old …replaced with a new Yuasa . I don’t have a problem with Lithium , I have one on my CCM . No issues whatsoever if kept on a Lithium maintenance charger. I wouldn’t buy the JMT lithium batteries though , I’m told they are cheap for a reason and don’t have some of the protective circuitry in them that other have brands have.
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After checking with Halfords, they do the YTZ14S for £90.00 - so not that much more expensive
I’d refute your JMT comments too.
JMT lithium batteries are made in Germany to a reasonably high standard. I’ve got one on my Harley and been really happy with it. The cranking Amps blow away the OEM one. The GS one is rated at 240A - compared to 230 on the HP Yuasa one. Just saying


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TIJ650 said:
After checking with Halfords, they do the YTZ14S for £90.00 - so not that much more expensive
I’d refute your JMT comments too.
JMT lithium batteries are made in Germany to a reasonably high standard. I’ve got one on my Harley and been really happy with it. The cranking Amps blow away the OEM one. The GS one is rated at 240A - compared to 230 on the HP Yuasa one. Just saying


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That Halfords price is a bargain 👍 The YTZ standard RRP is much more than a YTX14. I don’t doubt the CCA of the JMT is very good , Lithium’s are definitely way better in that respect than conventional batteries.😎
 
Rushy said:
That Halfords price is a bargain The YTZ standard RRP is much more than a YTX14. I don’t doubt the CCA of the JMT is very good , Lithium’s are definitely way better in that respect than conventional batteries.
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I got 7 years out of my OEM one - so guess time will tell with lithium. I don’t ride sub 5C - so alternator charging issue won’t be an errr issue. Guess my main motivation was I just bought new lithium charger for other bike……..and knowing me I’d mix them up after few beers


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The YTX despite being AGM should still not really be fitted on its side , the YTZ is the recommend battery for that . The YTX9BS is the most popular battery as it fits lots of old and current bikes , but not if the battery needs it be on its side . A lot of newer popular sports bikes particularly nowadays have the battery on its side and take a YTZ10S for his reason and also the more compact nature of it.
 
TIJ650 said:
I got 7 years out of my OEM one - so guess time will tell with lithium. I don’t ride sub 5C - so alternator charging issue won’t be an errr issue. Guess my main motivation was I just bought new lithium charger for other bike……..and knowing me I’d mix them up after few beers


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Just keep the thing on Your maintenance charger and I’m sure it will be fine. If left off a bike a lithium has a much slower discharge rate than lead acid BUT if fitted to the bike and there is any parasitic drain from the bikes electronics or a tracker then it will go flat much more quickly . The good news is if it is flat and won’t start the bike ( happened to me once ) then within 20mins or so you should get up to 80% and have enough charge to start the bike. My CCM is 4 yrs old in March and I think it has covered somewhere around 2,000 miles so is left standing a lot. 👍
 
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