Has anyone considered adding extra guying points to the Lone Rider Moto tent. A few weeks back I was at a very windy Brands Hatch, and because of a wind shift, the middle pole section kept collapsing inwards. No damage just annoying when seated in the vestibule/garage area, and looked quite alarming. I believe the earlier model was guyed from the middle, but this feature was deleted from the current (2022) model. Any thoughts, suggestions or bodges all gratefully received.
Lone Rider Moto tent, extra guying points.
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You think they’d be good…… so add them and report back….. you don’t need to ask permission.
You think they’d be good…… so add them and report back….. you don’t need to ask permission.
if i were to add them it would be a v-shaped buy line which pulls from 2 points. One lower down and one a bit higher up to help keep the shape. I can't remember the space there is around the pole in the housing, but there might be room to add a hole & metal ring to tie the points into.
I’ve been recommended a firm in Uckfield, Tents and Tarps, so I’ll have a word with them to see what’s viable. I had thought of punching in a few tarp reinforcing rings, but I’ll see what the pro’s suggest first.
The Uckfield company was Tent and Canvas, however their quote of between £60 to £80 for adding four guying points, went down like a lead balloon. Next time I use that tent I might try some screw type tarp clips, or maybe have a play in the garden to make sure they’d be suitable.
Having woken up twice finding the front collapsed and a right mess inside after strong winds I decided to attach a pair of tarp ties either side and a pair of cords between the two red bands this enabled me to add two additional guide lines keeping the front tight and tied where its needed. If you try to tighten up the front lines without the extras all it does is make the door zips that tight you can hardly shut the door.
They do advise facing the smaller bedroom area facing the wind which is fine as long as it doesn't change direction .
The photos sort of show the mod.
They do advise facing the smaller bedroom area facing the wind which is fine as long as it doesn't change direction .
The photos sort of show the mod.
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Maybe he is still playing in the garden?
Maybe he is still playing in the garden?
Strangely enough I was playing in the garden today, to decide which tent to take to next weekends Dragon Rally which is forecast to be very wet, no surprise there really. There's been no progress on project Lone Rider Moto tent as won't be using it until WSB at Donington in July, but will definitely have to come up with some way of guying the middle pole. When the weather is more settled it will give me a chance to put it up in the garden and have a play. Just seems odd that the earlier model was guyed from the middle. Will keep you posted.
Had another play in the garden this afternoon, to try and solve the central pole guying issue on the LR Moto tent. I had hoped to get proper loops sewn on which would have looked more "factory", but as already explained, the cost was far too prohibitive for me.
What I've come up with is hopefully shown in the accompanying pics, and has set me back about a tenner. I've used some screw type tarp clips with some rubber mesh in the jaws (110mm x 40mm), to avoid any damage to the tent fabric. The guying options are thus adjustable as well. The guy cords I've used are just some spare I had, but gives an idea of how it could look.
Another option would be to loop the tarp clips together, twice, with a sliding ring for the actual guy cord, similar to the LR set up. This would halve the number of pegs but still give tension in either direction. I taped in place a punch type guying eye, just to show that as another option.
It was quite blustery at times this afternoon and the tent was a whole lot more stable with this set up in place. Other than "the garden is a mess", what are your thoughts, think it would work OK?
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Richard
What I've come up with is hopefully shown in the accompanying pics, and has set me back about a tenner. I've used some screw type tarp clips with some rubber mesh in the jaws (110mm x 40mm), to avoid any damage to the tent fabric. The guying options are thus adjustable as well. The guy cords I've used are just some spare I had, but gives an idea of how it could look.
Another option would be to loop the tarp clips together, twice, with a sliding ring for the actual guy cord, similar to the LR set up. This would halve the number of pegs but still give tension in either direction. I taped in place a punch type guying eye, just to show that as another option.
It was quite blustery at times this afternoon and the tent was a whole lot more stable with this set up in place. Other than "the garden is a mess", what are your thoughts, think it would work OK?
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Tidied up for you.
Richard
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Bit of fat finger small phone trouble. The miss spells should be ,hopefully....options....thoughts. Couldn't figure how to edit.
I'd say adding in the punch hole is the best option. However you'll need to also add material to the area to make sure it's strong enough too - otherwise under tension it could further rip the fabric.
I think you can get clips (similar to how an inner of a tent hangs onto the flysheet) that you could use and directly connect to the pole with a small cut in the outer fabric.
I think you can get clips (similar to how an inner of a tent hangs onto the flysheet) that you could use and directly connect to the pole with a small cut in the outer fabric.
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. Thanks Richard.
You’re the man
They are the identical clamps I mentioned in my post. I'm a little concerned your guide lines across the door is a trip hazard LOLYou’re the man
With my method the ones I added at the top allows you to fit an additional guide lines fitted to where their front one attaches thus
stopping the wind collapsing the front and as I mentioned it can be tensioned without making the zip so tight you cant close the door.
Thanks for your replies chaps.
DJ123… I agree that this would be the best looking option and definitely needs some sort of reinforcement, but how could I attach some extra material to bolster the punched area. Would it be possible to glue in place maybe.
red rocket…Having looked closer at the pics you posted, I believe your tent is an earlier model to mine and has the middle pole guying points, which for some unknown reason were omitted from mine. I totally get the overtightening of the front causes zip issues, and how your mod works for your set up.
The trip risk could be halved by copying the LR guying method of one cord going to two points via a ring. Using the tarp clips would give adjustability as in, fitting the clip where it’s needed for that particular wind situation, but certainly for neatness the hole punch idea is the best. My LR tent won’t get used until WSB in July, when I’ll give the tarp clips a serious trial, and report back.
DJ123… I agree that this would be the best looking option and definitely needs some sort of reinforcement, but how could I attach some extra material to bolster the punched area. Would it be possible to glue in place maybe.
red rocket…Having looked closer at the pics you posted, I believe your tent is an earlier model to mine and has the middle pole guying points, which for some unknown reason were omitted from mine. I totally get the overtightening of the front causes zip issues, and how your mod works for your set up.
The trip risk could be halved by copying the LR guying method of one cord going to two points via a ring. Using the tarp clips would give adjustability as in, fitting the clip where it’s needed for that particular wind situation, but certainly for neatness the hole punch idea is the best. My LR tent won’t get used until WSB in July, when I’ll give the tarp clips a serious trial, and report back.
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Well, he's sussed how to use the sellotape on that heap of a tent- Why oh why oh why....
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Thanks for your replies chaps.…when I’ll give the tarp clips a serious trial, and report back.
Thanks for sharing your trial runs and getting the tent to work the way you want it to
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