looks like I'll be coming back to the GS fold

New bike day tomorrow..... Must say though, I'm not looking forward to riding there on the 1200RS. I've planned a route that should offer the least amount of clutch control as possible.
 
New bike day tomorrow..... Must say though, I'm not looking forward to riding there on the 1200RS. I've planned a route that should offer the least amount of clutch control as possible.
Ask them to deliver it. I can’t imagine their van being busy?

Otherwise, I hope your planned route avoids the A18 between Melton Ross and Kirmington, as the road crud from the adjacent quarry in wet weather doesn’t wash off easily 👍
The road crud is a hybrid cross of Araldite, Self Raising Flour and Turmeric…
 
Ask them to deliver it. I can’t imagine their van being busy?

Otherwise, I hope your planned route avoids the A18 between Melton Ross and Kirmington, as the road crud from the adjacent quarry in wet weather doesn’t wash off easily 👍
The road crud is a hybrid cross of Araldite, Self Raising Flour and Turmeric…
I thought that too, had all mine delivered. I think the salesman (or ladies) quite like escaping from the showroom for a couple of hours. Make them a coffee and do the required paperwork on your dining table.
 
Picked up the bike yesterday afternoon, Fuel cap wouldn't open, but managed to release it with the 'Emergency system'. It doesn't always drop into first when you come to a stop when in Drive mode. Not a good start. On the upside, it was fantastic not to have to worry about the clutch. suspension is lovely, handles well and the automated height adjustment is brill.
 
Picked up the bike yesterday afternoon, Fuel cap wouldn't open, but managed to release it with the 'Emergency system'.
There’s a page in the manual which describes the sequence for the ignition when opening the cap 👍
 
Picked up the bike yesterday afternoon, Fuel cap wouldn't open, but managed to release it with the 'Emergency system'. It doesn't always drop into first when you come to a stop when in Drive mode. Not a good start. On the upside, it was fantastic not to have to worry about the clutch. suspension is lovely, handles well and the automated height adjustment is brill.
I had exactly the same thing with mine on the ride home from Baildon when I picked it up. I cleaned and silicone sprayed the mechanism, not tightening it too much and never had a problem again.
The auto ride height was what made me swap my R1250GS and fully agree about the suspension.
Enjoy
 
Picked up the bike yesterday afternoon, Fuel cap wouldn't open, but managed to release it with the 'Emergency system'. It doesn't always drop into first when you come to a stop when in Drive mode. Not a good start. On the upside, it was fantastic not to have to worry about the clutch. suspension is lovely, handles well and the automated height adjustment is brill.
Normal BMW quirks :D
 
Wrinkly, Congrats on the new ride, hopefully the few gremlins will work there way out for you...
Do we get a pic or two :)
 
Well chuffed for you that you can still ride a bike.Hope you get the problems sorted.Good on ya

Kimbo
 
Just booked in for the first service, £240 which felt like a bit of a kick in the whatsits, anyway it is what it is. So, how's the bike? Initial minor niggles now sorted and I must say it's a very very nice bike to ride. It still has yet to speak to me as Moto Guzzi does, but it's growing on me by the week. I've been out in all sorts of weather apart from snow and ice. I've had the odd dry ride when it can be ridden with a little more spirit and it's a very competent machine, handing is very predictable and the suspension is something else, I'm still not overly keen on the telelever front suspension, I like to trail brake into corners (it's how I learnt to ride and has stuck with me throughout the years) and it doesn't give as much feel IMHO as traditional forks, having said that it never feels uncomfortable. I've gotten my head around most of the basic electronics but I doubt I will ever have full command over them. The main thing for me has been the ASA. After several years struggling with clutch control it's opened a whole new element of motorcycling that allows me to exit junctions and enter roundabouts without having to concentrate on what my left hand is doing, it's very liberating.
Yes I'm sure you've read reports by some journo's that it's very clunky and doesn't react when you want it to and there's no real control without the clutch. I don't think in automatic mode it's any clunkier than any quickshifter I've ever used and in manual mode the changes are the slickest I've ever experienced. I've learnt to manage very slow manoeuvring on the back brake. Come up to a junction keep a little drive on the throttle and control the speed with the rear brake, far far easier than trying to control it on the clutch. Having learned my way around the auto clutch it would be a big thumbs up from me even if I had no problems with a conventional clutch.
 
Just booked in for the first service, £240 which felt like a bit of a kick in the whatsits, anyway it is what it is. So, how's the bike? Initial minor niggles now sorted and I must say it's a very very nice bike to ride. It still has yet to speak to me as Moto Guzzi does, but it's growing on me by the week. I've been out in all sorts of weather apart from snow and ice. I've had the odd dry ride when it can be ridden with a little more spirit and it's a very competent machine, handing is very predictable and the suspension is something else, I'm still not overly keen on the telelever front suspension, I like to trail brake into corners (it's how I learnt to ride and has stuck with me throughout the years) and it doesn't give as much feel IMHO as traditional forks, having said that it never feels uncomfortable. I've gotten my head around most of the basic electronics but I doubt I will ever have full command over them. The main thing for me has been the ASA. After several years struggling with clutch control it's opened a whole new element of motorcycling that allows me to exit junctions and enter roundabouts without having to concentrate on what my left hand is doing, it's very liberating.
Yes I'm sure you've read reports by some journo's that it's very clunky and doesn't react when you want it to and there's no real control without the clutch. I don't think in automatic mode it's any clunkier than any quickshifter I've ever used and in manual mode the changes are the slickest I've ever experienced. I've learnt to manage very slow manoeuvring on the back brake. Come up to a junction keep a little drive on the throttle and control the speed with the rear brake, far far easier than trying to control it on the clutch. Having learned my way around the auto clutch it would be a big thumbs up from me even if I had no problems with a conventional clutch.
ASA is a revelation isn't it!?
 
Just booked in for the first service, £240 which felt like a bit of a kick in the whatsits, anyway it is what it is. So, how's the bike? Initial minor niggles now sorted and I must say it's a very very nice bike to ride. It still has yet to speak to me as Moto Guzzi does, but it's growing on me by the week. I've been out in all sorts of weather apart from snow and ice. I've had the odd dry ride when it can be ridden with a little more spirit and it's a very competent machine, handing is very predictable and the suspension is something else, I'm still not overly keen on the telelever front suspension, I like to trail brake into corners (it's how I learnt to ride and has stuck with me throughout the years) and it doesn't give as much feel IMHO as traditional forks, having said that it never feels uncomfortable. I've gotten my head around most of the basic electronics but I doubt I will ever have full command over them. The main thing for me has been the ASA. After several years struggling with clutch control it's opened a whole new element of motorcycling that allows me to exit junctions and enter roundabouts without having to concentrate on what my left hand is doing, it's very liberating.
Yes I'm sure you've read reports by some journo's that it's very clunky and doesn't react when you want it to and there's no real control without the clutch. I don't think in automatic mode it's any clunkier than any quickshifter I've ever used and in manual mode the changes are the slickest I've ever experienced. I've learnt to manage very slow manoeuvring on the back brake. Come up to a junction keep a little drive on the throttle and control the speed with the rear brake, far far easier than trying to control it on the clutch. Having learned my way around the auto clutch it would be a big thumbs up from me even if I had no problems with a conventional clutch.
There’ll be a few on this site who think you’re a reincarnated warlock and sorcerer for those words :D
 
if you ever ride to london (or any super dense traffic areas) on a daily commute - please be aware the 1300 engine is now 3 inches wider than the old hex or twin cam air-cooled bikes

had I realised I would not have a super wide tank in my garage irritating me, I'm retired - but even light traffic is a no go on these things

it makes me wonder if all these madmen you'd see on old air cooled ones commuting at speed through gaps with less than 30 thou clearance at all four points (bar ends and cyl covers) car after car, explains the masses of almost new 1300 GSA's with <500 miles on sale at every dealership - those crazy bikes are 6" wider - meaning its a foot bigger than sensible for today's traffic

because we have to factor we have lost a lot of road width - cycle lanes and modern cars that are now 9" wider each side - due to side impact protection in last 10 years means if you go to the west end there not even a gap for small scooters half the time
 
if you ever ride to london (or any super dense traffic areas) on a daily commute - please be aware the 1300 engine is now 3 inches wider than the old hex or twin cam air-cooled bikes

had I realised I would not have a super wide tank in my garage irritating me, I'm retired - but even light traffic is a no go on these things

it makes me wonder if all these madmen you'd see on old air cooled ones commuting at speed through gaps with less than 30 thou clearance at all four points (bar ends and cyl covers) car after car, explains the masses of almost new 1300 GSA's with <500 miles on sale at every dealership - those crazy bikes are 6" wider - meaning its a foot bigger than sensible for today's traffic

because we have to factor we have lost a lot of road width - cycle lanes and modern cars that are now 9" wider each side - due to side impact protection in last 10 years means if you go to the west end there not even a gap for small scooters half the time
What have you been drinking, must be strong stuff.
Have you bought or ridden a 1300gs yet.
 
since getting my first GS I told myself whilst fun and nothing quite like it - I will never buy another - as I can't get through traffic like I'm used too - 17 years on and the conditions got far worse - collapsed verges have stolen 18" of my lane, lazy councils working on grid lock have deliberately stolen +20 foot off what gave safe, fast sight lines - and most dying trees have limbs waiting to fall across both lanes, with hedgerows often 3 foot into my lane due to cutting restriction allegedly for wild life breeding / saving the plant rubbish

So I needed cruise to cope with life -

In a moment of lapsed judgement I got a 2016 GSA, but all the early faults were still on mine - refused to start multiple times, the clutch let itself out twice in traffic and it was so slow I couldn't cope, so it went back

Wanting sufficient go, I got a KTM 1290 but it has so little steering lock I can't get through traffic either, and then the brakes don't function - the discs go blue, the front dives at the ground, but the speed carries on at exactly the same rate so you can't use any of its power

I got a TC GSA but the later engine is not so nice, then the wire wheels or the steeper steering angle and fuel load means its a wayward beast so I have to ride slower and the girth makes you think it won't go in the same spaces and of course no cruise

So I got a triumph explorer coz it had cruise and should be faster then the 2007 GS - but its engine produces no power where I want, and it also has less steering lock and less brakes than I want - plus the single side rear does something odd and disconcerting so that went in the skip too

Then they put real forks on the 1300 with proper triple clamps and added enough go at the top and the bottom.... so I blinged one to death - but they did the order wrong twice and so it took 5 months to turn up just as winter came - the thing went wrong on the ride home, I forgot to order a real one with a Key for the ignition - so that deeply offends every time you try to get the halfwit dashboard to light up, then realise its without decent gauges, its got a horrific seat, its too fat to get through traffic and the pathetic adaptive cruise is a nightmare to set, when on it stands on the brakes 50 metres before I'd ever reduce speed and won't go slow enough for the congestion I have - so I went on hols for 3 months - and current thinking is I would rather it wasn't there when I get back

still got the 2007 GS - its the best Bike I own and unlike the 1300, with my racing compound pads - its actually got brakes
 
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It's actually around 30mm wider than the 1200's and about 60mm narrower than the 1250, that's at the cylinder heads.
Leave your address on social media, I'm sure someone can arrange for it to be gone when you return home.
Merry Christmas, and may I suggest you lay off the sauce.
 


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