Lost in Spain

[Racer]

I am currently somewhere in Spain - by Barcelona - Sant Oliva to be precise, on a works outing, I have brought my 2610 with me and loaded - in addition to the UK maps, the relevant map for the Barcelona area .
I can not see any waypoints for the UK, only two that I put in for the Barcelona area.

If I wanted to drive back to the UK, how would this be possible ?
Why cant I see my UK waypoints ?
Should I have loaded every map in Europe in one go - card size permitting to be able to see my UK waypoints ?

Cheers guys, I may not be able to respond very quickly, I am burning more ozone holes.

Racer.

 

[Fanum]

I suspect that you mean that you loaded the Spanish maps and you already had the British ones in, so you're assuming that you now have both.

Sadly, it doesn't work like that...when you load a map, it erases everything else on the unit so you'd have to load the Sapnish and British maps together at the same time.

You should have the base map still on the unit though, which will give you most main roads, m-ways etc, so you'll be able to find your way home.

Not sure why it's not showing your waypoints- I thought they were independant of the maps and would show on the base map albeit only like a floating point and inaccurately

 

[BTBR]

I am currently somewhere in Spain - by Barcelona - Sant Oliva to be precise, on a works outing, I have brought my 2610 with me and loaded - in addition to the UK maps, the relevant map for the Barcelona area .
I can not see any waypoints for the UK, only two that I put in for the Barcelona area.

If I wanted to drive back to the UK, how would this be possible ?
Why cant I see my UK waypoints ?
Should I have loaded every map in Europe in one go - card size permitting to be able to see my UK waypoints ?

Cheers guys, I may not be able to respond very quickly, I am burning more ozone holes.

Racer.

Easy .............buy a map.......................



BTBR

 

[ianboydsnr]

just ride north for about 1000 miles then west and your there, easy

 

[brassmonkey001]

Check out the Dali museum in Figueras (sp?) if you get the chance. It won't help you find your way home, but it's definately worth a visit.

 

[PanEuropean]

I can not see any waypoints for the UK, only two that I put in for the Barcelona area. Why can't I see my UK waypoints ?

Because any of the 26xx and 27xx GPSRs will only display waypoints that are within 200 miles of your present location, unless you 'qualify' your waypoint search criteria by specifying 'Waypoints near xxx', or you enter your waypoint name by spelling it, or you use the map (pan feature) to locate your waypoint.

This behavior is by design, it is to cut down on waypoint list clutter by only presenting the waypoints that are nearest to you. It has nothing to do with the maps segments that you may (or may not) have loaded on your data card.

If I wanted to drive back to the UK, how would this be possible?

I can think of two ways. First would be to orient your motorcycle so that the sun is on your right (in the morning) or on your left (in the afternoon), then twist the throttle. That will send you off in the correct general direction. Eventually the road signs will start to appear in French - that is an indication that you are proceeding in the right direction. Once the road signs start to appear in Dutch, turn left and look for signs that say "Hook of Holland Ferry - this way."

The other way would be to search for a city name in the UK (for example, London) and follow the route. It doesn't matter if you don't want to go to London. Once you get on board a ferry, you can tell the GPSR what your REAL destination is. By then, you'll probably be within 200 miles of your home waypoint anyway, so it will now show up on the screen without any special effort.

Should I have loaded every map in Europe in one go - card size permitting to be able to see my UK waypoints ?

No, you don't understand. Waypoints are not stored in the data card, they are stored in the GPSR itself. They are all still there, trust me.

Cheers guys, I may not be able to respond very quickly, I am burning more ozone holes.

Uh - it sounds like you have been getting too much exposure to the sun already.

Michael

 

[samwise]

I can think of two ways. First would be to orient your motorcycle so that the sun is on your right (in the morning) or on your left (in the afternoon), then twist the throttle. That will send you off in the correct general direction. Eventually the road signs will start to appear in French - that is an indication that you are proceeding in the right direction. Once the road signs start to appear in Dutch, turn left and look for signs that say "Hook of Holland Ferry - this way."

Michael

 

[John Armstrong]

I can think of two ways. First would be to orient your motorcycle so that the sun is on your right (in the morning) or on your left (in the afternoon), then twist the throttle. That will send you off in the correct general direction. Eventually the road signs will start to appear in French - that is an indication that you are proceeding in the right direction. Once the road signs start to appear in Dutch, turn left and look for signs that say "Hook of Holland Ferry - this way."

Michael

Reminds me of the saying that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

















But the most effective!

 

[BTBR]

I can think of two ways. First would be to orient your motorcycle so that the sun is on your right (in the morning) or on your left (in the afternoon), then twist the throttle. That will send you off in the correct general direction. Eventually the road signs will start to appear in French - that is an indication that you are proceeding in the right direction. Once the road signs start to appear in Dutch, turn left and look for signs that say "Hook of Holland Ferry - this way."

Michael

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[Racer]

Thanks for the advice - and the sarcasm, it was all very helpful.

I actually loaded - in the UK, all of the UK and the portion of Spain I was interested in.
When requesting the waypoints in Spain, it shows the two that i loaded for the Spain area, when I looked for the waypoints while I was in the UK, it showed the ones in the UK but not in Spain. Hence the question about having the maps loaded all the way through.
How do I access the waypoints that are in the UK - i.e "home" ?, do I have to set something on the unit ?

Thanks in advance and cobblers to the sarcasm

Racer

 

[araspitfire]

Perhaps this is what's going on???

If you search for waypoints in "nearest" mode, the GPS will only show you ones nearby..., but if you search for them by name.. (just type an A), you should see all your waypoints.

Waypoints, tracklogs, even routes have nothing to do with the map data... they are stored in different places... though if you have a mapping GPS, the route will likely be only two points.

I can't think how your waypoints would have gotten deleted, but it's possible I guess...

Al...

 

[PanEuropean]

How do I access the waypoints that are in the UK - i.e "home" ?, do I have to set something on the unit ?

Hi Racer:

I'm going to try and walk you through this. It is a bit difficult to figure out at first, so don't feel bad about it.

First, accept that USER waypoints have nothing to do with whatever maps you might have loaded on your data card. You can set up a user waypoint in the middle of China, download it from your PC to your GPSR, and it will always be there. User waypoints (those that you have created yourself) are not stored on the data card along with the maps, they are stored in a totally different area of the memory within the GPSR itself. POIs (points of interest), such as hotels, gas stations, and so forth are stored on the data card with the maps. So are all cities except the very biggest ones, typically the capital city of each country.

Second - when you call up a waypoint (user or POI) in the 'normal' manner - by using the FIND screen - the GPSR will automatically limit what it finds and displays to about a 200 mile radius of where you happen to be. This is to avoid overburdening you with useless information. For example, if you wanted to find a BMW dealer while you are in Spain, you don't really want to see information about BMW dealers in Norway.

The way to access a waypoint - either a user waypoint, such as your home, or a POI from the data that is stored on the map load - if that waypoint is more than 200 miles from you is to use the 'find near' feature. If you want to find 'Home', and you are in Spain and 'Home' is in the UK, then go to find, and fish around until you can see a way to 'find near other' or 'find using map'. This will allow you to find waypoints that are more than 200 miles away from your present position.

I hope this helps you figure it out.

Michael

 

[Racer]

Cheers Michael,

After wading through the various replies I formulated a plan of attack.
I wasnt aware at first of the 200 mile-ish limiting factor on waypoints , which does make sense although was a little frustrating while sat at the side of the road in the rain.
I have saved a number of points of interest which will be usful in the future, both personally and for the company.
I have yet to try renaming 2610 stored waypoints so that they do not present themslves as a series of numbers on the screen, I think I will have more time to look at this as it is raining sufficently to stop my work.

Thanks for your help and advice,

Racer - off to explore mountain roads.

 

[gasman]

An interesting addendum to all that (well interesting to me anyway..):


In the 2610 you can delete en masse waypoints which have the default waypoint symbol. You can only do this while listing waypoints 'by name' but not while using 'near here'. You do this via pressing MENU when the waypoints are listed.

I found this useful the other day when I somehow (I think it was google earth or fugawi what done it) I ended up with loads of extra waypoints. Something had turned a track into dozens of waypoints which were cluttering up the 2610. i was happy not to have to delete them one by one. Thus it's worthwhile giving useful waypoints a different symbol (eg the little house icon) if you want to keep them permanently.

 

[Taff]

... I have saved a number of points of interest which will be usful in the future, both personally and for the company. I have yet to try renaming 2610 stored waypoints so that they do not present themslves as a series of numbers on the screen, ...

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you will remember these waypoints later, because I can virtually guarantee that you won't. If I were you, after creating a waypoint I would try and rename it or at least change the icon there and then (even if it isn't perfect eg BNKR for Bunker, RKT SIT for Rocket Site etc etc). You can always rename them and change the icons / category properly at your leisure, when you download them to Mapsource.

After every trip I've done, when I download the new waypoints to the computer, I have a handful of waypoints that I have taken the effort to create, but which mean absolutely nothing to me, when seen as just numbers on a screen days or even weeks later.