Georgeeboi
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It can be retrofitted at the dealer!
Mm! Interesting
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If I recall correctly - the Hilltop re-map sits at a higher level within the software which the basic BMW technicians can not access. (A bit like the bios of a motherboard controls the windows software on your PC - so the Hilltop parameters are in the bios, but the BMW stuff sits on your hard drive. Does that make sense??)
Therefore regardless of any alterations the BMW bods install regarding the fuelling, the Hilltop settings remain. Anything else is updated accordingly.
GS-Jonesy
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Makes perfect sense to me. A good analogy.
So in terms of fuelling, whichs take priority after BMW have done a fuelling change, the BMW one or the Hilltop one?
chojin
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression shift assist wasnt to be used for 1st and 2nd gear?
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No he didn't and believe me, not having any sort of a life I have read all the threads on Hilltop so if you are to continue down that tired old, worn out groove, I suggest you find the post where he says what you are claiming. As Neoviper hasn't posted much on here it should take you no time at all to find that particular post
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No he didn't and believe me, not having any sort of a life I have read all the threads on Hilltop so if you are to continue down that tired old, worn out groove, I suggest you find the post where he says what you are claiming. As Neoviper hasn't posted much on here it should take you no time at all to find that particular post
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PS Sorry GS-Jonesy, it a quiet day in the office today
He indicated that he created his own firmware and didn't just change table values - maybe you or me misunderstood - however what is the answer to my question in post 24 above i.e.
"So in terms of fuelling, whichs take priority after BMW have done a fuelling change, the BMW one or the Hilltop one?"
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Nope can't be arsed to look because there are far too many and I have better things to do at the moment - question still stands.
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Likewise then.
Out of respect to Neoviper may I suggest you no longer post stuff on here that you attribute to him yet 'can not be arsed' to substantiate.
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This software update is not only for bikes fitted with the quick shifter. My bike is a 2013 model without the quick shifter.
My dealer did this software upgrade on my bike last year and claimed that it will make the gear shifting easier. When I left the dealer after the upgrade I thought it did help to find neutral easier. However it is now a couple of months later and the shift action and effort to find neutral (from first) is the same as before the software update. I still blip the throttle to help with the shifting action.
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You may suggest but I stand by what I said, he more than hinted that he did more than just change table values - he either does or does not, it isn't that important to my question in the above post.
Old school blipping smooths the LC change enormously, I do it all the time, have done it on all my bikes going back to this 70s so it is second nature
The other I find helps a lot is to just dip the clutch and do rapid up changes, slow lazy changes are clunkier.
I'd be interested in knowing the answer to that question too!
Using the bios / pc analogy, the BMW upgrade doesn't go to the bios - it goes to the hard drive on the PC.
Therefore, the Hilltop settings remain untouched as they are at a much higher level within the software.
As a result anything updated by BMW is over written again by the Hilltop parameters..
Ok so you are saying that any BMW updates to the fuelling are effectively ignored - so if BMW decided for what ever reason a safety update was required to the fuelling then it has no effect on a bike that has been re-mapped by Hilltop?
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PS Sorry GS-Jonesy, it a quiet day in the office today
No need to Apologise...I love this shit
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Yes thats about the size of it. Although its highly unlikely any BMW fueling update would be better than the Hilltop re-map...
After all this why we (i) have it done....
I need to mention that i am in no way an expert or even a partial expert in this field.
I was merely fascinated to hear how this worked whilst waiting for my bike to be re-mapped.
The way i have described it is roughly how it was explained to me.
All i know is that coupled with a de-cat set of headers and the re-map the bike pulls very nicely through the entire rev range.
Torque wheelies rather than power wheelies are easily achieved....
I was merely fascinated to hear how this worked whilst waiting for my bike to be re-mapped.
The way i have described it is roughly how it was explained to me.
All i know is that coupled with a de-cat set of headers and the re-map the bike pulls very nicely through the entire rev range.
Torque wheelies rather than power wheelies are easily achieved....
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I need to mention that i am in no way an expert or even a partial expert in this field.
I was merely fascinated to hear how this worked whilst waiting for my bike to be re-mapped.
The way i have described it is roughly how it was explained to me.
All i know is that coupled with a de-cat set of headers and the re-map the bike pulls very nicely through the entire rev range.
Torque wheelies rather than power wheels are easily achieved....
Ah, are you saying you actually spoke to Geoff, asked him direct questions and he answered them? Not a bad way to get some definitive answers
And yeah, couldn't agree more about what a positive difference a Hilltop tune makes
Andres
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