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Anyone got website(in English) for SNCF or whoever to look at booking one way bike on train from Paris to Marseille?

Also appreciate any feedback on the service... I have two days to get bike to Marseille and home and this looks interesting compared to boring motorway slog.

Cheers,
Czr
 
Is it still running?

I thought it had closed down.

:nenau
 
I did Nice > Calais on motorail in 2003. Bloody excellent it was too, if a tad pricey. However, if you add it all up it worked out as not much more than an overnight stop, loads of petrol, tyre wear, tolls, plus the coolness of having an extra day riding nice roads in the Alps rather than slogging up an endless autoroute.

There were a few of us. We had twin berth "couchettes" to sleep in which were comfy enough but smelt a bit due to sweat-soaked leathers festering in a pile on the floor.

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There was no food or drink on board. Take your own. We did.

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Bikes go on the last carriage and are last to load and oddly last to unload. Communications from the train company are poor so you can end up waiting around quite a while. The carriages are double-decked so keep your head down when loading.

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Bikes are tied down by guys that have done it millions of times before.

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End result is very secure.

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If I was going to the south of France again, I'd definitely ride down (more fun when the holiday is still to come) and get the train back up. Nice to Calais was an overnighter and was very smooth, lots of nice sleep after some vin rouge and nibbles, and appeared as if by magic in Calais at 8am thoroughly refreshed.

Strangely we were all ushered into a breakfast place in the train yard in Calais where you had to have breakfast otherwise you seemed to get into trouble. Whilst this was happening they unhooked the train so the unloading could start. Bikes off last, poor communication about what to do and when from the "operatives" so we hung about until we got the nod, then it was off to the chunnel and away. Sorted.
 
I did Paris to Lyon 2 years ago and it was fine, with one exception.......the sleeping arrangements!

If I were to do it again I'd recommend dropping your bike off in the afternoon, supervise it being loaded (it was very well handled by the guys on the ground) and then jump on a TGV, be in Lyon for dinner, and stay in a decent hotel. We thought we were going to be travelling on the same train as the bikes. In reality they weren't the same train and so we could have saved ourselves a very sleepless night!

Years ago there were constant reports of train staff stealing from sleeping compartments. Then it seemed to stop. However, we had an unwelcome visitor! He didn't get anything but I woke up but was too slow to give chase in the altogether!:augie

The other thing we found was that we had to wait a while at Lyon for the bikes to be unloaded but that aside, all very professionally done.

I'd do it again but make alternative sleeping arrangements.:thumb
 

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If I were to do it again I'd recommend dropping your bike off in the afternoon, supervise it being loaded (it was very well handled by the guys on the ground) and then jump on a TGV, be in Lyon for dinner, and stay in a decent hotel. We thought we were going to be travelling on the same train as the bikes. In reality they weren't the same train and so we could have saved ourselves a very sleepless night!
There has been some changes, the slow overnight train with couchettes that used to follow the Auto Train has stopped, so we used the TGV (as recommended) to return from Nice in Sept 2009 we stopped in a hotel in Paris and collected the Bikes next day.:thumb2

It was worth noting that some of the cars that had been on the train had their rear windows smashed, apparently folks break them, then blag a free ride up country in the cars.:blast so be careful what you leave on the bike.:eek
 
We rode the motorail to Italy through France a few years back and somewhere along the way all the cars on the top deck were etched with ? battery acid.

Possibly poured from bridge? Etched into glass and paint - many £1000's of damage to BM's mercs etc.

Would have been a bother only wife totalled the car on an italian hill! :blast

Note bene - if you are on a motor touring holiday, it really complicates matters if the car is written off!
 
I would also echo Andy B statement on the security of the sleeping arrangements. I had a work colleague who along with her family booked a SNCF sleeper train down to the skiing areas of France, some years ago. When they awoke in the morning they had found out, that whilst asleep all their valuables were stolen. Get this she later found out from reporting this to the train operator, that her & her family had been gassed into a deep sleep in order that the thieves could easily steal from them. These person(s) then apparently just simply jump off at the next stop en-route :eek::eek:

Effing train operator and the French authorities knew of this scam was going on but failed to notify passengers and such like.

After hearing these stories from a number of work colleagues and friends, and now on this UKGSer site, I would use these sleeper trains if only I could get my 1200GS in the cabin with me to block the door. :nenau

Graeme ;)
 
I was thinking how great it would be to just sleep all the way down to SOF, don't fancy a deep sleep with belongings being taken and potentially getting buggered by some French Queer before waking up to no gear and a trashed bike.

Perhaps I will stick to the current system of a days boring riding, though as someone else said this tends to be fine going on Holiday, but a real chore when returning.
 
Did the motorrail myself also, Paris -> Nice. But got a friend (in paris) to buy the tickets for me about 6/7 weeks in advance.. and my god was it cheaper.

1 bike , 2 adults €300.00 one way with a 2nd class couchette

I used a chain with small lock to hold the door closed, looping it around the luggage rack.. I had the gassing treatment years ago inter-railing and woke up on a dark train which had been put into a warehouse in the station.. so no prizes for guessing the staff were in on it.

Tried to book the way back in the station in Nice but she wanted €500 one way. So dunno, maybe it works like Ryanair and booking flights.
The closer to the day you want it, the more the price goes up.

As an alternative I found these lads.. and I know there are many others like them

http://www.amsmotorcycles.org.uk/id42.html

and have seen other links on this forum for delivery down to Malaga where lads want to head to morocco and save some rubber and ass numbness on the way down
 
hertogenbosh to alessandria

we planning going from hertogenbosh to alessandria on the motorail next year.
i'd be interested if anyone got experience of this route?
 
Uturn,did alessandria,denbosh last year ,loading,and unloading,if you are tall with a tall bike can be a bit frought by lack of head room and reduced visability on motorail carraige .Rolling stock a bit aged,but accomodation was fine,the food and wine deal in dinning car is well worth considering,a bit of a treat ,but you are on your holidays Ithought the cost was a good deal considering the miles itcovers and time it saves to get further away in a limited time,Railsavers who we booked with were really helpfull
 


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