Motorcycle security when away from home

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This thread is timely on a number of levels:


1. We are coming into the popular holiday season, when more bods are away from home. Not least, thieves know this too, so they know that there’ll be more opportunities presented to them.

2. Lots of requests are made on this forum for details of ‘secure’ hotels. If nothing else it is perhaps foolish to rely on ‘hotel security’ alone, without taking any additional precautions. If the chain of the thread linked above is to be believed, one of the four bikes was not stolen, simply because it had the added security of a decent U-lock. Of course we’ll never know if that was only reason (maybe the thieves were disturbed) but, on the face of it at least, the additional security helped to prevent a loss.

3. Whilst a U-lock or similar is certainly better than nothing, a bike secured to itself is not as secure as a bike chained to something. Whilst that might not always be possible, chaining a bike to a mate’s bike (assuming you not travelling alone) helps, to some degree or another. A looped chain, between the centre stand and the wheel, can and will make a simple ‘push away’ (the most common theft) more difficult. Likewise, look at the car park; is there a lamp post or railing you can use, to secure the bike to? Yes, it might mean pushing the bike awkwardly onto the grass or into a corner. But, if that is awkward for you, it’ll be awkward for a thief too. Thieves will avoid awkwardness, whenever possible. Why wouldn’t they; they are only human.

4. Yes, it takes time to secure a bike. What though is certain, is that it takes a lot longer to report and then claim for the loss (and to arrange how to get home or walk) than it does to try to prevent the theft in the first place.

5. Don’t fall for the old: ”I was only gone a minute”. Few tasks, other than stealing a bike, take under a minute. Thieves know this. They watch you saunter 20 or more yards into the coffee shop…. They know you’ll very probably be at least five minutes and longer if you sit down…. BINGO! One bike gone. Take and use a simple disc lock. That alone will take you well under a minute to attach. One minute, part of your coffee stop, it’s nothing.

6. Don’t think that because you are not in Reims, it can’t happen. Bikes are stolen in country villages and in towns. Don’t be the one to have that proved to you.


And yup, we all get lazy and tired….. When I think I can’t be arsed, I remind myself to practice what I preach. A self inflicted kick up the arse then, is a lot less painful than one in the nuts later from a thief. Trust me.

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In support of Wapping's good recommendations I'd also advocate that the rear wheel is the one that is secured to whatever you can as it's much easier to wheel away a bike with a front disc lock, chain, etc. by just lifting up the front end.
 
Sorry to hear this I’ve purchased two liteloc d locks and I know if they want your bike they will find away but do as much to your bike it doesn’t take long
 
Padlocked garage, two disc locks, two chains and a dog that goes nuts if he hears the gate squeak. Fuckers still nicked my Norden

Cnuts

Yeah, but no blame on you, you took reasonable steps to protect your stuff.


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This thread is timely on a number of levels:


1. We are coming into the popular holiday season, when more bods are away from home. Not least, thieves know this too, so they know that there’ll be more opportunities presented to them.

2. Lots of requests are made on this forum for details of ‘secure’ hotels. If nothing else it is perhaps foolish to rely on ‘hotel security’ alone, without taking any additional precautions. If the chain of the thread linked above is to be believed, one of the four bikes was not stolen, simply because it had the added security of a decent U-lock. Of course we’ll never know if that was only reason (maybe the thieves were disturbed) but, on the face of it at least, the additional security helped to prevent a loss.

3. Whilst a U-lock or similar is certainly better than nothing, a bike secured to itself is not as secure as a bike chained to something. Whilst that might not always be possible, chaining a bike to a mate’s bike (assuming you not travelling alone) helps, to some degree or another. A looped chain, between the centre stand and the wheel, can and will make a simple ‘push away’ (the most common theft) more difficult. Likewise, look at the car park; is there a lamp post or railing you can use, to secure the bike to? Yes, it might mean pushing the bike awkwardly onto the grass or into a corner. But, if that is awkward for you, it’ll be awkward for a thief too. Thieves will avoid awkwardness, whenever possible. Why wouldn’t they; they are only human.

4. Yes, it takes time to secure a bike. What though is certain, is that it takes a lot longer to report and then claim for the loss (and to arrange how to get home or walk) than it does to try to prevent the theft in the first place.

5. Don’t fall for the old: ”I was only gone a minute”. Few tasks, other than stealing a bike, take under a minute. Thieves know this. They watch you saunter 20 or more yards into the coffee shop…. They know you’ll very probably be at least five minutes and longer if you sit down…. BINGO! One bike gone. Take and use a simple disc lock. That alone will take you well under a minute to attach. One minute, part of your coffee stop, it’s nothing.

6. Don’t think that because you are not in Reims, it can’t happen. Bikes are stolen in country villages and in towns. Don’t be the one to have that proved to you.


And yup, we all get lazy and tired….. When I think I can’t be arsed, I remind myself to practice what I preach. A self inflicted kick up the arse then, is a lot less painful than one in the nuts later from a thief. Trust me.

:beerjug:
Excellent & timely reminder 👍🏍️

For the record - I always carry a lock & chain (in a specialist bag on the pillion seat - rarely, if carrying a pillion it goes in the pannier)

It’s a Sold Secure chain with a spinning & rotating padlock (to avoid it being defeated by blunt force)

I have carried the same lock set up for 30 years …..and I always use it when travelling here & in Europe

Whether it works, it seems to have been a deterrent up to now

I put the chain around the Telelever arm and front wheel, so it’s off the floor and if I can ….I attach to some solid ‘street furniture’ too

Yes, it’s heavy ish

Yes, it’s a ballache

However I do like my bike and being individual to me….it’s unique & priceless to me

Here’s a few pics of my lock bag set up on a recent trip to the Irish 🇮🇪 republic


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Funny, it's been a decade since we travelled in Europe and I am getting really paranoid about bike theft, to the point where I have bought a cover, hidden a tracker and am going to take another lock for our upcoming trip. Never had any worries while travelling in Africa, South America or Australasia, but maybe I was lucky.
 
It’s definitely more a city thing .
I remember a few years back reading about a spate of bike thefts from Grenoble, yet at the same time I was only a few miles away staying up in Rencurel where the hotel owner left his keys in his Ducati 24/7 and parked out in the open with no security at all.

Edited to add, found a pic

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Funny, it's been a decade since we travelled in Europe and I am getting really paranoid about bike theft, to the point where I have bought a cover, hidden a tracker and am going to take another lock for our upcoming trip. Never had any worries while travelling in Africa, South America or Australasia, but maybe I was lucky.

It really is not the Wild West.

Just take some simple and very basic precautions. That pound of butter in the fridge will do the rest, I promise.
 
Small towns and villages are booming though

Most seem deserted when I ride through. The Lithuanians must have stolen the populace, too.

Opticians, hairdressers * and dog grooming parlours are booming though.

* Every street in France must have at least one of each and any market square, two. C’est le roi.
 
It is a bit daft worrying about 2 or 3kg of metal (that may save your holiday)...when most lug about 90kg + of body on top of a 250kg machine with 40kg of luggage., the weight pales........
The amount of money people spend on weight-saving farkles is generally lost amongst the fast food spend…

A few bob less in Greggs would reduce the rider’s weight by more than the gimmicks!
 


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