Motorcycle security when away from home

My take on things now is that powerful battery angle grinders are the tool used to defeat bike security.

Like Wapping, fit a lock that is highly grind resistant (LITELOK X1/X3 etc) and stay one step ahead of the arms race.

In my case, using a discount code it’s a £140 investment policy.

Ask yourselves……What price your bike ??
 
And along comes proof thereof…



More or less than 10,000 inhabitants? This is very important to know.
Alora. More. Population 12,951. Staying at Hostal Duran. They had a photo on 'booking' claiming motorcycle parking, showing bikes parked, but it cleverly disguised they are in the street outside. With the narrow street and high buildings the alarm must have made a racket. I was at the rear of the hostal and heard nothing.
 
JB asked about the differences in size and weight between the Litelok X1 and X3, helpfully answered by someone with access to Google.

By way of additional help, here are pictures of four reasonably popular locks. They are:

The X1, the X3, the Kryptonite ‘New York’ lock and an Oxford ‘Boss’ disc lock.

As you can hopefully see:

A. The X1 and X3 are pretty much similar in size, the X3 being slightly larger and, shall we say, a bit more ‘robust’. It is certainly heavier. That does not make the X1 bad, per se.

B. The Oxford disc lock is smaller (unsurprisingly) and considerably lighter. It is though, still a good lock.

C. The Kryptonite lock is somewhere in the middle. Larger than the Oxford but pretty much the same weight as the X1. I wasn’t sad enough to get the scales out. Those who are troubled by such things can Google it for themselves, hopefully.

What is best?

I have used all three at various times and still have my bikes. On a very unscientific measure, that makes them all equal and satisfies the oft heard “My bike has never been stolen” pumped out on these pages, sometimes with the additional “…. And I leave my keys in it”, as if suggesting that doing nothing is the best (and all) that any bikermate can do. It was from this that the ‘Pound of butter in the fridge’ was born.

Either and all of the three locks are easy to use and are pretty much impervious to weather. The easier they are to use, the less excuse you have not to use them.

The two Litelocks have a possible advantage in that it’s often possible to secure a chain as well. You might though need to cut down the rubberised cover of the D-section a bit (it’s only cosmetic) if the chain has narrow links.

My appologies for not including a banana by way of scale.

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The two Litelocks have a possible advantage in that it’s often possible to secure a chain as well. You might though need to cut down the rubberised cover of the D-section a bit (it’s only cosmetic) if the chain has narrow links.
I was looking at this chain that is supposed to be among the best and is sold in length up to 15 metres :D
Pewag VKK 12mm
 
My daughter is moving out of her flat tomorrow & staying with us for 2 weeks until her house buy completes. I’ve given up the garage to store her furniture etc so I’ve had to move the bikes out. My R18 is under the cover & locked to a pretty heavy wheel chock it sits in. My GS has the Roadlok on & I’ve chained the centre stand to the front wheel by daisy chaining a Kryptonite lock & chain & an Abus one. I’ve also got a 20mm steel cable going between the 2 bikes. All the locks are off of the ground.
Whenever possible & certainly overnight we’ll park the 2 cars as in the photos. I’ve also got a CCTV camera on order.
It all seems ridiculous but bike thefts are on the up in Brighton & Worthing & we sit midway between them.
 

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Re LiteLocks "You might though need to cut down the rubberised cover of the D-section a bit (it’s only cosmetic) if the chain has narrow links."
I believe the rubber coating is what impairs the effectiveness of cutting discs, so best not cut it down.
 
My daughter is moving out of her flat tomorrow & staying with us for 2 weeks until her house buy completes. I’ve given up the garage to store her furniture etc so I’ve had to move the bikes out. My R18 is under the cover & locked to a pretty heavy wheel chock it sits in. My GS has the Roadlok on & I’ve chained the centre stand to the front wheel by daisy chaining a Kryptonite lock & chain & an Abus one. I’ve also got a 20mm steel cable going between the 2 bikes. All the locks are off of the ground.
Whenever possible & certainly overnight we’ll park the 2 cars as in the photos. I’ve also got a CCTV camera on order.
It all seems ridiculous but bike thefts are on the up in Brighton & Worthing & we sit midway between them.
Jeez man get the priorities right
Store the furniture outside under a tarp or gazebo

or get your daughter to hire a lock up store for a few months :D
 
Re LiteLocks "You might though need to cut down the rubberised cover of the D-section a bit (it’s only cosmetic) if the chain has narrow links."
I believe the rubber coating is what impairs the effectiveness of cutting discs, so best not cut it down.

The rubberised coating of the X1 and X3 is there to protect the paint on the bike wheel only. It stops the D part banging against the spoke / wheel rim. The strength / resistance to cutting / cropping lies in the metal core of the D piece.

:beerjug:
 
The rubberised coating of the X1 and X3 is there to protect the paint on the bike wheel only. It stops the D part banging against the spoke / wheel rim. The strength / resistance to cutting / cropping lies in the metal core of the D piece.

:beerjug:

There was a lock, I forget who made it now, which had a fibrous core or outer liner, which was supposed to catch on a saw blade’s teeth, restricting its efficiency.
 
Loving that bag... what is it ? How does it fix to the bike ? I worry that a heavy chain/lock will put a lot of strain on a bag's fixings ?

Please…. You forgot the ’please’.


Two straps, front and rear. Four in all.

I worry less, I guess.
 
My daughter is moving out of her flat tomorrow & staying with us for 2 weeks until her house buy completes. I’ve given up the garage to store her furniture etc so I’ve had to move the bikes out. My R18 is under the cover & locked to a pretty heavy wheel chock it sits in. My GS has the Roadlok on & I’ve chained the centre stand to the front wheel by daisy chaining a Kryptonite lock & chain & an Abus one. I’ve also got a 20mm steel cable going between the 2 bikes. All the locks are off of the ground.
Whenever possible & certainly overnight we’ll park the 2 cars as in the photos. I’ve also got a CCTV camera on order.
It all seems ridiculous but bike thefts are on the up in Brighton & Worthing & we sit midway between them.
I'd cover the GS. What's the likelihood of anybody nicking an R18?
:D
 
Toolstation and Screwfix have a reasonable amount of security chains and the like, often at prices that comfortably beat the ‘biker friendly’ names and outlets. As a cheaper deterrent (based on the assumption that thieves would rather steal a bike with no security) it might well augment the pound of butter.
 
It’s definitely more a city thing .
I remember a few years back reading about a spate of bike thefts from Grenoble, yet at the same time I was only a few miles away staying up in Rencurel where the hotel owner left his keys in his Ducati 24/7 and parked out in the open with no security at all.

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I never really did get why Jean Francois always left his keys in his bike.
 
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I never really did get why Jean Paul always left his keys in his bike.

Either because he couldn’t be arsed to take them out. Or he wanted to prove / show off, how ‘safe’ (aka biker friendly) his hotel was. Or he was friends with the local Lithuanians. Or the Lithuanians knew that the village had less than 10,000 inhabitants and, as such would pass the JB safety test. Or he was very forgetful. Or, most likely, unlike his guests, he didn’t have to ride the next day, back to Calais or Stuttgart.

Bikermate: “Oi, JP mate, me steed ‘as gorn”

JP: “Tant pis”

Bikermate: “But you leave your keys in, mate”

JP: “Ma moto est à moi. Ta moto est à toi”

Bikermate: “Feckin’ great, mate. Call us a taxi…..”
 
Either because he couldn’t be arsed to take them out. Or he wanted to prove / show off, how ‘safe’ (aka biker friendly) his hotel was. Or he was friends with the local Lithuanians. Or the Lithuanians knew that the village had less than 10,000 inhabitants and, as such would pass the JB safety test. Or he was very forgetful. Or, most likely, unlike his guests, he didn’t have to ride the next day, back to Calais or Stuttgart.

Bikermate: “Oi, JP mate, me steed ‘as gorn”

JP: “Tant pis”

Bikermate: “But you leave your keys in, mate”

JP: “Ma moto est à moi. Ta moto est à toi”

Bikermate: “Feckin’ great, mate. Call us a taxi…..”
Correction, ‘tis Jean Francois
 


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