exactly....it´s what you want yourself....not what others suggest.
If you´re not strong in planning and want someting done for you then there is clearly a buzzing market for this sort of thing!
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If you´re not strong in planning and want someting done for you then there is clearly a buzzing market for this sort of thing!
Martin GSA UK
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Each to their own. No problem at all with people using tour operators, just wanted to say the planning can be interesting, give you control on costs, to spend big on luxury, or not. It's not that difficult and adds to the anticipation and overall experience.
I guess my mates have the best of both worlds. Someone does it for them without charging for it. They even get some input, if they want!
I guess my mates have the best of both worlds. Someone does it for them without charging for it. They even get some input, if they want!
I like weird things other people dont like, so i would be stopping at places nobody else would.
Such as walking round war graves, castles, memorials and anything historic.
Specially if it has a back story I'm all in!
Some will think "feck that ya boring shit, I'm gonna carry on" lol
I also stay on £10 a night camp sites to save money although i like a beer and good pub food.
So if I ever did "Barnoe Tours" it would be a niche market for Alcoholic Anoraks who like roughing it
Such as walking round war graves, castles, memorials and anything historic.
Specially if it has a back story I'm all in!
Some will think "feck that ya boring shit, I'm gonna carry on" lol
I also stay on £10 a night camp sites to save money although i like a beer and good pub food.
So if I ever did "Barnoe Tours" it would be a niche market for Alcoholic Anoraks who like roughing it
Indeed.
Everyone and anyone can do it their way or someone else’s.
It is a passably interesting debate as to what constitutes an ‘organised’ jaunt. Of course the tours where a bod buys an entire programme from a third party supplier is at one end of the spectrum. These companies will charge (they are not a charity) but will have at least an obligation to try their very best to offer their clients a good time. A part of their charge will (or at least should) include an allowance that people will ‘steal’ their ideas.
At the other end, there is a bloke on his own or with one, two, six or more mates, going away. Few will set off with no plan at all. Who does their planning is up to them.
In between, there is everyone else. These will include someone who might organise a tour for himself and his mates, but have say, his room costs subsidised by his friends (with or without their knowledge) in exchange for having put everything together.
Also in between, there is someone who is not worried about going, but just wants some help (the quantity - and sometimes the quality - varies) with suggestions or ideas. These can be bought from someone like Simon Weir or provided free from assorted sources, including UKGSer.
In short, there is more than enough room for everyone and just about anything.
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I've arranged tours for groups of up to 9 people. I won't do it again. Despite trying to involve everyone at the outset, and also making clear that I'd try to find accommodation that suited everyone but couldn't guarantee it, you inevitably become the 'go to' target for any sort of complaints. The accommodation is too noisy, the restaurant's too expensive, the restaurant's too cheap, why do all the restaurants close at 8 o'clock, why did you choose this town, it was much better when we went to XXXXX, the nearest petrol station is really expensive, where are we stopping for lunch today, do they do chips...
This year someone else made the arrangements and I just turned up to catch the tunnel, then turned up at the hotels. I was very careful not to complain about anything (and to be fair, there was not really much to complain about).
At least if you're paying a fair premium to have someone arrange your tour for you, you can expect full information at every stage and also have some moral (and legal) justification for complaints.
I see it as the equivalent of using a travel agent for your week in Greece; with a bit of effort you can get all the info you need on all stages of the holiday, and might even enjoy it if you're that kind of person. But if you're not, there's nothing wrong with using someone or a company that does it for you. It's no different to people who will say "You paid HOW much?" for new brake pads, or to have your house painted, or a new tap fitted in your bathroom.
This year someone else made the arrangements and I just turned up to catch the tunnel, then turned up at the hotels. I was very careful not to complain about anything (and to be fair, there was not really much to complain about).
At least if you're paying a fair premium to have someone arrange your tour for you, you can expect full information at every stage and also have some moral (and legal) justification for complaints.
I see it as the equivalent of using a travel agent for your week in Greece; with a bit of effort you can get all the info you need on all stages of the holiday, and might even enjoy it if you're that kind of person. But if you're not, there's nothing wrong with using someone or a company that does it for you. It's no different to people who will say "You paid HOW much?" for new brake pads, or to have your house painted, or a new tap fitted in your bathroom.
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I'm with you all the way,my kind of stuff-Apart from the camping,feck that.I like weird things other people dont like, so i would be stopping at places nobody else would.
Such as walking round war graves, castles, memorials and anything historic.
Specially if it has a back story I'm all in!
Some will think "feck that ya boring shit, I'm gonna carry on" lol
I also stay on £10 a night camp sites to save money although i like a beer and good pub food.
So if I ever did "Barnoe Tours" it would be a niche market for Alcoholic Anoraks who like roughing it
Bang on with the first part. Thats why I do max 4 people including myself. I also send every interested party an email with a lot of details on what the trip is going to entail right down to what my preference is for food, lunch stops and riding style. This way everyone knows what they are letting themselves in for. They can always decide if they want to join or not. Luckily most of those I ride with know me and the type of tours we do so it’s fine. Always better to be straight from the planning stage to avoid disappointment
Also my website gives a bit of an idea of what I am about on the riding front which helps.
……And I have never charged and would never price accommodation to cover my own stay costs. I usually book everything in advance but the financial settlement is up to each individual. The beauty of the Logis system
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I have just looked at Simon Weir’s menu of off-the-shelf downloadable GPX routes and prices. Weir, from his time as editor of RiDE magazine, knows a thing or two about routes that will cater for a wide spread of abilities when it comes to people (none - or very, very few - of whom he knows) on motorcycles.
A day out circular loop is £2.
A basic ‘long weekend’ trip is £100.
A one week trip is somewhere around £200.
A trip of around two weeks is around £250.
To have a fully bespoke two week holiday, tailored to suit you, will be north of £250 obviously.
It shows what good value UKGSer’s Travel section is, when bods (and their six mates) request non-motorway, great roads, stuff to see and do along the way and accompanying hotels, journeys of which are often well over 2,000 miles.
A day out circular loop is £2.
A basic ‘long weekend’ trip is £100.
A one week trip is somewhere around £200.
A trip of around two weeks is around £250.
To have a fully bespoke two week holiday, tailored to suit you, will be north of £250 obviously.
It shows what good value UKGSer’s Travel section is, when bods (and their six mates) request non-motorway, great roads, stuff to see and do along the way and accompanying hotels, journeys of which are often well over 2,000 miles.
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I've done some great trips because of info from the forum which is always greatly appreciated. Hotels places to visit ect. Don't always use all the info but it's there if needed.
I organise a tour every year. Mostly around 12 riders but we have had 17 one year. I make the routes, another rider sorts accommodation and another books any ferries required. It’s a great trip each time and usually on the last night we decide where we would like to go the following year.
We have had a few loud pipe, knobhead types over the years but they simply don’t get to come again.
I do enjoy the group trips but wouldn’t really want to do more than one a year.
We have had a few loud pipe, knobhead types over the years but they simply don’t get to come again.
I do enjoy the group trips but wouldn’t really want to do more than one a year.
Iv'e done about 60 Motorrad Tours. Before Motorrad I organised my own, mostly via Santander. Also done Globebusters.Are you going to try one?
IF you have done 60 tours you should know ALL the ups and downs
Yeah I too thought that is kind of odd.
I do, but from my perspective. Wondered what others thought.....weird.....
Perhaps a better worded introductory post might have helped?
However, as you’ve been on a surfeit of Motorrad tours, maybe you could tell the forum what the key aspects are, that keep bringing you back to their door, presumably as a fee paying customer and not an organiser.
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