Multi-functional wheel scroll up down issue.

[Riko]

My multi-functional wheel can move left and right changing between SatNav, info, compass etc but the scrolling up down zoom in/out has no effect. (2016 GS 28k Nav V) The bike has had numerous trips in all weather conditions but garaged over night. I have scoured this site and the tinterweb for advice and checked and cleaned the contacts, WD 40 etc, to no effect. Has anyone tried to fix this issue previously? if i try taking it off to inspect are tiny little springs clips etc going to go flying on all directions never to be seen again.
I am usually fairly competent with these things, but any previous experience in removing, inspecting, fixing and replacing (with new if required) would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Winjar]

My multi-functional wheel can move left and right changing between SatNav, info, compass etc but the scrolling up down zoom in/out has no effect. (2016 GS 28k Nav V) The bike has had numerous trips in all weather conditions but garaged over night. I have scoured this site and the tinterweb for advice and checked and cleaned the contacts, WD 40 etc, to no effect. Has anyone tried to fix this issue previously? if i try taking it off to inspect are tiny little springs clips etc going to go flying on all directions never to be seen again.
I am usually fairly competent with these things, but any previous experience in removing, inspecting, fixing and replacing (with new if required) would be appreciated. Thanks

master reset normally can fix

 

[Riko]

master reset normally can fix

Thanks Winjar but Nope, didnt work

 

[knutk]

My multi-functional wheel can move left and right changing between SatNav, info, compass etc but the scrolling up down zoom in/out has no effect. (2016 GS 28k Nav V) The bike has had numerous trips in all weather conditions but garaged over night. I have scoured this site and the tinterweb for advice and checked and cleaned the contacts, WD 40 etc, to no effect. Has anyone tried to fix this issue previously? if i try taking it off to inspect are tiny little springs clips etc going to go flying on all directions never to be seen again.
I am usually fairly competent with these things, but any previous experience in removing, inspecting, fixing and replacing (with new if required) would be appreciated. Thanks

My information is based on experience from pre LINbus time (as in 1200LC), but I suspect that the Wonderwheel still is not LINbus, so here goes:

Here is a picture from the internal PCB.

The internals are basically two switches for front/rear click (black rubber in the middle of the PCB, one on each side).
The rolling action is handled by two Halleffect sensors, (on the not-visible side in this picture.)

This means that there is a need for powersupply for the halleffect switches to work. In my case, this was 5V (and it probably is)
So, there are 6 wires:

+5 V
Common ground
Pulse 1 from hall 1 switch
Pulse 2 from hall 2 switch
Closed signal front switch
Closed signal rear switch.

To diagnose the system:
GS 911 will show open/closed for all 4 outputs in the live view mode.

All 4 switches acts as Normal Open, Active Closed. They all have a 5V pull-up supplied by the ECU.

The Hallswitches will react to every two notches from rotation of the wheel. Hence, in order to meassure response from both sensors, the wheel needs to be turned more than one notch



As far as opening the wonderwheel, there are no tiny springs that will fly through the room. There are no springs. The spring action is taken care of by strong magnets, both centering the Fwd/Aft click and the rotation. It's well built, with quality components. A light hand and a quality small torx driver is all it takes to open it. So it is made to be opened without being damaged.
But there is nothing in there that cannot be measured while the unit is still fully assembled... The hall sensors are covered by a clear sealer, and it will take lots of mud/moisture in order to not function. (salt/corroition may of course paint a different picture...

 

[SBD]

Solid explanation. Interesting.

 

[Riko]

My information is based on experience from pre LINbus time (as in 1200LC), but I suspect that the Wonderwheel still is not LINbus, so here goes:

Here is a picture from the internal PCB.

The internals are basically two switches for front/rear click (black rubber in the middle of the PCB, one on each side).
The rolling action is handled by two Halleffect sensors, (on the not-visible side in this picture.)

This means that there is a need for powersupply for the halleffect switches to work. In my case, this was 5V (and it probably is)
So, there are 6 wires:

+5 V
Common ground
Pulse 1 from hall 1 switch
Pulse 2 from hall 2 switch
Closed signal front switch
Closed signal rear switch.

To diagnose the system:
GS 911 will show open/closed for all 4 outputs in the live view mode.

All 4 switches acts as Normal Open, Active Closed. They all have a 5V pull-up supplied by the ECU.

The Hallswitches will react to every two notches from rotation of the wheel. Hence, in order to meassure response from both sensors, the wheel needs to be turned more than one notch



As far as opening the wonderwheel, there are no tiny springs that will fly through the room. There are no springs. The spring action is taken care of by strong magnets, both centering the Fwd/Aft click and the rotation. It's well built, with quality components. A light hand and a quality small torx driver is all it takes to open it. So it is made to be opened without being damaged.
But there is nothing in there that cannot be measured while the unit is still fully assembled... The hall sensors are covered by a clear sealer, and it will take lots of mud/moisture in order to not function. (salt/corroition may of course paint a different picture...

Thank you sir, I only have a MotoScan UCSI-2100 UniCarScan, not sure if that is detailed enough? Job for next Sunday

 

[knutk]

Thank you sir, I only have a MotoScan UCSI-2100 UniCarScan, not sure if that is detailed enough? Job for next Sunday

Yes. it's in there.
Not very easy to find. It is to be found under the Lights module.
(Why lights, switches are located on the handlebar? Well, the lights are controlled through the ZFE, as are the handlebar switches...)

 

[Riko]

Exellent. Tusen Takk.