Navigator IV + Multi-Controller (wheel thing)

Little-Brit said:
I have the Sony dongle too. Superb sound quality but... After about an hour or so the music starts to get interrupted by short silences that get more and more frequent until I have to give up. This is my second dongle, the first was a £10 Chinese jobie that had the same problem. I assumed the dongle was the problem but now suspect the sat-nav. Does this sound familiar?

I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to resolve this. Do BMW have a technical help line/web site?

Derek
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Do you have the speed camera warning on, this causes a break in the music and normally a 'bong' sound.

I have a 660 Zumo, got fed up with the 'bong' so turned it off, now no interruptions!
 
Little-Brit said:
I have the Sony dongle too. Superb sound quality but... After about an hour or so the music starts to get interrupted by short silences that get more and more frequent until I have to give up. This is my second dongle, the first was a £10 Chinese jobie that had the same problem. I assumed the dongle was the problem but now suspect the sat-nav. Does this sound familiar?

I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to resolve this. Do BMW have a technical help line/web site?

Derek
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No, I have the same set up as you and get the same problem: everything is fine for about 30 mins 9perhaps even longer), but then start getting small (probably less than a second) interruptions to the music. I tolerate it for a while, but then eventually turn the music off. But, whilst the music gets these interruptions, I have never noticed the same problem with the sat-nav instructions.

I have tried all things to try to understand where the fault lays, but with no real success.

If you turn off the media player for a while and restart, the interruptions are still there.

If you leave it playing (with the interruptions) I eventually lose all sound.

If I stop, switch off the MW600, switch on and re-make the BT connection, then the music plays fine/uninterrupted for another 30 mins or so.

So, whilst initially I feared the faulat is with the Nav IV, I am now miore inclined to say that the fault is with the BT connection and probably at the Sony end.

But I would be interested in knowing if anyone has also encountered this and come up with a fix.
 
Yep, I did. Not sure why this happens. It happened with a Nokia BH-214.
It goes away if you switch everything off and pair again. Now I started using the Sony-Ericsson HBH DS-220. So far so good, with the possible issue looming during longer rides. The only thing I did now, that wasn't the case before is unpairing my mobile phone. I don't pick up calls anyway during a ride.
 
jtb said:
Ok, what about the dialogue box that tells you when its lots its satellite fix??
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To be honest, I can't remember. I guess I just tap the screen to remove the prompt…. But maybe I can just fast forward a page on the GPS device, using the wheel. I can’t recall.

It doesn't happen so often as to be uber-annoying and / or when it does I can generally imagine where it is I am meant to be going, whilst the device sorts itself out.

I have the sound ‘Off’ so as to avoid all the ‘Searching for satellites / lost satellite reception….’ voice messages. Similarly, I have the ‘Off route, recalculate’ function set either to ‘Off’ (ie. I can go off route if I chose to, without being told that I have) OR set to ‘Prompted’ (ie. I can chose to allow the device to recalculate or just leave it alone). That way I run the device, not it me.

I have all the speed camera warnings turned off. This is not because I do not speed. It’s because I do not want interruptions (usually in towns) with the dumb device telling me I am (or might be) in a speed controlled area; when all I really want it to tell me is to take the second on the right, third on the left, then straight ahead at the roundabout whilst negotiating the streets of St Perdue du Lost, with a gaggle of Wanderers behind me.

Maybe it’s easier because I grew up in a world before GPS devices, when a map and a sheet of paper hand written instructions had to do. I embraced the new-fangled GPS technology, wondering in the marvel that was the Psion’s and Palm’s ability to display a map whilst I rode along. That they were truly shite did not really matter, we didn’t know that then…. It’s only now (with the latest generation devices like the Garmin 550 and 660 series) that the past looks truly dreadful.
 
I think technology is simply lost on some people, regardless how easy or hard it is to use.

We are so set in our ways and don't like change.
Well guess what ladies, change is the only constant in life you can put your money on so better get used to it or you are fighting a losing battle

RTFM is appropriate here. It does a lot more than you give it credit to. Weather or not you care to use it is another story.
 
This thread has morphed into something quite amusing.

Bods upset that the quality of the sound from their Bluetooth dongle is spoiling their enjoyment of riding the motorcycle.

BMW have been barking up the wrong tree. There they were, working hard over the years to put twin cams into a Boxer's head, water cool it, reduce its weight, improve its styling, make it easier to ride and stop better, boost its power, improve its lights.....When all they had to do was make sure the rider could listen to Ramstein at 11 on the dial for hours on end :D

Though on the other hand, it does show how good motorcycles are becoming. If the worst aspect fellows can put their fingers on is the quality of the sound system (and the ease of operating the GPS) then the engineers can probably give themselves a pat on the back :thumby:
 
Wapping said:
Though on the other hand, it does show how good motorcycles are becoming. If the worst aspect fellows can put their fingers on is the quality of the sound system (and the ease of operating the GPS) then the engineers can probably give themselves a pat on the back :thumby:
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Hmm....I think Mr BMW may have received a few more letters on the crunching gears, the lost neutrals, and the 'not fit for purpose' pannier spacers, amongst other things for the Gs12Lc, than an intermittent problem with the satnav :augie

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Wapping said:
This thread has morphed into something quite amusing.

Bods upset that the quality of the sound from their Bluetooth dongle is spoiling their enjoyment of riding the motorcycle.

BMW have been barking up the wrong tree. There they were, working hard over the years to put twin cams into a Boxer's head, water cool it, reduce its weight, improve its styling, make it easier to ride and stop better, boost its power, improve its lights.....When all they had to do was make sure the rider could listen to Ramstein at 11 on the dial for hours on end :D

Though on the other hand, it does show how good motorcycles are becoming. If the worst aspect fellows can put their fingers on is the quality of the sound system (and the ease of operating the GPS) then the engineers can probably give themselves a pat on the back :thumby:
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1st world problems!

And yes it just goes to show how far not just bikes, but most things in life have come on. It's difficult these days to buy a truly awful product.

But with increasing development comes increasing expectation.
 
grahamcoxon said:
1st world problems!

And yes it just goes to show how far not just bikes, but most things in life have come on. It's difficult these days to buy a truly awful product.

But with increasing development comes increasing expectation.
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Agreed....but having paid £15k+ on a motorbike you can understand why owners would be a bit peeved at struggling to engage gears, or having oil leaks from the engine etc....it's the sort of thing you'd expect them to pick up on in those 'vast amount of miles' of testing they apparently did before launch. :augie

But you're right in what you say, bikes of the past certainly weren't anywhere near as technologically advanced as today :thumb2
 
Dainese Brave said:
Agreed....but having paid £15k+ on a motorbike you can understand why owners would be a bit peeved at struggling to engage gears, or having oil leaks from the engine etc....
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... whilst those that are happy, still manage to groan that their GPS / whirlywheel thingy isn't exactly as they would like it :D... oh and it appears to get punctures ;)... God 'elp 'em if it ever rains and / or when winter arrives :eek:



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I'm picking up my new GSA over the weekend - I'll let you know how I get on with the wheel.
 
Thank you to Paul08 and herrdirector for confirming that I am not the only one with bluetooth dongle issues.

Thanks to Jonnyp too, my warnings are/were all off.

To the others gonads...:mad:

I have read the f ing manual and nowhere in there does it make any reference to when you would like your bluetooth connection to start dropping out!

I have come from an old fashioned Zumo 550 with plug in earphones that have worked faultlessly for 5 years. Having forked out north of £500 for the new and improved Navigator IV is it too much to expect it to be at least as good as the model it supercedes?

The bike is bloody brilliant :JB

I'd just like the cherry on the top to be sweet not made of wax.

Next stop BMW/Garmin.
 
Please do let us (me) know if you track down the issue and find a solution. I do like some music if I find myself with a m'way trip to do
 
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