New French law

JWFr said:
1. Number plate sizes. The size of the number plate must conform to the regulations of the country of registration. It has nothing to do with local law.
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The vehicle has to comply with the regulations of the country where it's registered but also with the Code de Route in France. Uk spec. number plates exceed French specs. however, some bikes can be registered in the UK without indicators and mirrors and these cannot be legally used on the road in France.
 
I haven't read through the whole post (it is too long) so apologise if someone has mentioned this already.

I heard on Radio 4 this afternoon that as from this summer it is illegal in France to have the location of speed cameras on your satnav.

The contributor said they thought the French police might be 'sympathetic' to British drivers whilst visiting but of course they didn't have to be.

Not sure if this is widely known.
 
ChasF said:
..... however, some bikes can be registered in the UK without indicators and mirrors and these cannot be legally used on the road in France.
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I don't know the answer and this is a devils advocate question really, but what about, say, a UK registered Grindlay Peerless that was manufactured in 1929 well before indicators were even thought of ?
 
GSTourer said:
I haven't read through the whole post (it is too long) so apologise if someone has mentioned this already.

I heard on Radio 4 this afternoon that as from this summer it is illegal in France to have the location of speed cameras on your satnav.

The contributor said they thought the French police might be 'sympathetic' to British drivers whilst visiting but of course they didn't have to be.

Not sure if this is widely known.
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been mentioned about 10000000000000 times on here and i highly doubt any " sympathy" will be shown
 
What happens to tractors mopeds etc that have no room to carry the kit? Surely this law applies to passenger carrying vehicles and hgv's?
 
ChasF said:
The vehicle has to comply with the regulations of the country where it's registered but also with the Code de Route in France. Uk spec. number plates exceed French specs. however, some bikes can be registered in the UK without indicators and mirrors and these cannot be legally used on the road in France.
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I beg to differ on your comment. Visiting vehicles to any European country only need to comply with the regulations where the vehicle is registered as far as the number plate is concerned. I don't understand what you mean by U.K. plates exceeding French specs?? What measure or comparison are you using??? There is currently no set standard for plates to which a comparison can be made. A number of EU countries use different type faces and letter sizing, and different colours for rear and forward plates ( Dutch plates are a good example as they are yellow, back and front, with small black lettering). In France there are currently two standards, although this is gradually changing. The current Code de la Route ( I have a copy in front of me as I type), has no mention of size requirements or conformity for overseas plates only the requiremnt for French registered vehicles .
 
JWFr said:
I beg to differ on your comment.
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+1....In Germany the law has recently changed to allow motorcycles to have small number plates fitted. This change has come about believe it or not, as a result of statistics that have shown that a lot of injuries have been caused by the standard sized plates. This new 'small' plate does NOT conform to the French requirements which says that small plates can not be fitted. It does not matter one bit, as long as the vehicle complies with regulations that apply in the country in which the bike/vehicle is registered that is all that is required.

Of course the above applies only to vehicle and vehicle construction. Any non-vehicle specific items such as first aid kits etc is down to local laws.
 
The time to have been wound up by all and any of this was during the demonstrations, if you do not go on the demo's and make yourself counted you can expect your rights to be eroded :blast reading some posts many only become aware of these changes when they read it here...

Join the BMF! :thumb and be heard you know what numbers make... ? :bow
 
... or MAG

I posted up details of the MAG MWay demo last year all over the place and rode out of LFE services, M!S, on the day, with over 500 other bikers in protest at EU jegislation in general and UK implementation specifically. What the French do on their own turf is their business. "When in Rome...." (but watch out for the bloody taxis!)
 
any updates on this

heading to france early april, any one know if i required to have hi-viz bib or not , would a oxford sam brown type belt suffice?
Do have have to bring my own intoxilyzer?
bulbs fine, anything else? thanks
 
de crowe said:
heading to france early april, any one know if i required to have hi-viz bib or not , would a oxford sam brown type belt suffice?
Do have have to bring my own intoxilyzer?
bulbs fine, anything else? thanks
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If you read the link in the previous post to yours it would appear that reflective and breathalyser won't come into force for your time of travel.
 
thanks

GSTourer said:
If you read the link in the previous post to yours it would appear that reflective and breathalyser won't come into force for your time of travel.
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yes, this was my understanding too. there is so much speculation on these issues it is hard to keep up, not just here, but in the weekly comic as well(mcn).
The alcohol limitations that apply in France are generally the same as currently apply in Ireland, although the penalties are very different.
I am anxious to avoid an on the spot fine for not carrying or wearing some relatively minor bit of kit that maybe a requirement in france now but not yet required in ireland. No doubt we will catch up with the French in due course.
safe riding
 
AlanI said:
Here's the latest (dated 7th March) from the AA regarding this saga http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/driving-abroad-whats-new-2012.html
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I can see a marketing opportunity here:

Clothing must have a minimum reflective surface of 150cm2 (approx 23in2), either in one piece or in several pieces, and must be worn between the neck and waist.
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for someone who makes one of those mesh-type black vests with the words "Bloody Stupid French Laws" (or similar) in reflective tape. As long as the lettering adds-up to at least the minimum 150cm2.
 
de crowe said:
yes, this was my understanding too. there is so much speculation on these issues it is hard to keep up, not just here, but in the weekly comic as well(mcn).
The alcohol limitations that apply in France are generally the same as currently apply in Ireland, although the penalties are very different.
I am anxious to avoid an on the spot fine for not carrying or wearing some relatively minor bit of kit that maybe a requirement in france now but not yet required in ireland. No doubt we will catch up with the French in due course.
safe riding
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Traveling on a 1600cc motorcycle i would have thought that a fine for not wearing a sam brown would be the least of your concerns.
 
france.

interesting thread, im off to france in may so will just miss
the new rules, apart from the sat nav one but im happy to take my chances with that one.
did make me wonder though, rightly or wrongly ive always tended to ignore
the fixed cameras but always stick to the limit in town and villages.
ive been flashed by the cameras lots of times and never had any come back.
do you think that with all these new rules that they will start to persue us for the fines from the fixed cameras?
paul.
 
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