New Guzzi V85 looks good.

.................- Are MG shaft drives any good? are they known to do big miles

Solid things. In all their guises AFAIK. The older Tonti bikes can have UJ failure very occasionally (but even then, at decentish mileages).

Also, if my old 1100 Griso is anything to go by then compared to my old R1200GS there is far less backlash in the drive train than the GS and a far, far sweeter gearbox.

Andres
 
Just seen Steve climbing on the V85, in Thirsk
Await his test thoughts later

He went towards Sutton Bank and when he overtook me (black Hilux - I did wave to you, but you were engrossed in the bike) it sounded ok. I followed him for a few miles into Sutton under Whitestonecliff, as he was stuck behind a big white truck.
Bike looked good from the rear, then he was off.............quickly dispatching the big white truck just before Sutton Bank

Hope you enjoyed the ride, Steve
 
Wondered to myself ' What the hell's this bloke waving at ?' sorry JB didn't realise it was you.

Arrived Thirsk just after 9 this morning, quick look around the bike and then I was off. Tank full of fuel, which was nice, and asked if I could be back around 12. First impressions, love the look of the bike, everything looks quality, only thing that really stood out was how exposed the front of the engine is and the fact it has tubed tyres.
Getting on the bike it felt quite tall and I was on my tiptoes, but I've only got short (29") legs. Not to much of a problem as it also felt very light, despite it being quite heavy. There are three seat options, but the option of higher or lower seat is an extra cost. All switches are very intuitive and easy to use, the exception is the riding mode control which is altered using the start button. TFT display is only small but all the info is clear and easy to read. So, off we go. I set out toward Sutton Bank and immediately got caught up behind some old codger dithering about in a Black Toyota van, drove it like he was used to riding one of those old GS motorbikes.:D Soon dispatched of him and spent the next few miles getting used to the bike.

Clutch is very light needing only the slightest of tweeks for either up or down changes. Gearchange is that good that it's often difficult to know whether or not it's actually changed gear but soon got used to the feel of it. Turned off the A170 and down toward Ampleforth which is a narrow B road. Dear me I didn't stop grinning until I got to Helmsley. I think this is where the bike really comes into it's own, it's just so flickable and has more than enough grunt for these roads even keeping it at the running in revs. There are a series of running in lights which flash amber then red, not that I ever saw the red lights:augie. Through Helmsley and out onto the Helmsley to Stokesley road. (Locally know as the Helmsley TT) I thought the bike was good on the back roads, it was flipping awesome along the road. It inspired confidence and literally handled as though on rails, look where you want to go and it just goes, got caught out a couple of times with an over enthusiastic approach, the bike has no qualms about changing direction mid corner and no matter how I tried I couldn't upset the handling, it was just rock solid.

Turned off toward Westerdale, which is around 5 miles of fairly gnarly road and it did start to get a little upset bucking around a bit at speed. Stopped the bike and had a look at the rear suspension which had been set fairly stiff, knocked it down a couple a notches and the sublime handling was returned. My god it was fun to ride on these roads. Crossed over Blakey Ridge down toward Rosedale, a road I have ridden hundreds of times, lovely surface, tight turns, and a near perfect view of the road ahead. I left the suspension as it was. Now I'm no Valentino Rossi but I can get a shift on at times, I did that road 3 times, there back and there, and there was no way I could get the pegs down. Feet on the edge of the pegs and I could ground my boots, but a fair way from getting the pegs down. Suspension and handling still felt great after soften it off a bit on the previous road.

I spent well over two hours playing on this bike in and around The North York Moors, and didn't want to take it back despite the fact I was Nithered (very cold). The short screen afford a good level of protection, but sends a blast of cold air directly at your upper chest, absolutely no buffeting though.

I did take it for a short blast upto 90mph on a private road:rolleyes: and didn't feel any undue vibration. However I do ride on the balls of my feet and when my heels touched the passenger pegs I did feel a lot of vibration through said heels.

Engine was really rather nice. I did wonder if 80 bhp was going to be enough, but for this type of riding it was just right. Not much happening below 2.5k rpm but after that it starts to pick up and at 3.5k rpm really comes to life. Due to not wanting to abuse it, I wasn't really able to say when it ran out of puff...……... TBC very shortly
 
So, to continue.

Loaded with gear, and maybe a pillion I think the bike might struggle a bit, but that depends on how much you want to get on, if your happy to make steady progress I'm sure it would be fine. As a bike with a single rider and maybe some luggage, I would imagine it would take you down any A or B road as quickly as any other bike, and certainly quicker than some much bigger faster bikes. Seating position was lovely, with good leg room and a very natural bar position.

Would I blast it for hundreds of miles down Motorways and fast A roads, most probably not, there are better bikes for doing that.
Would I load it up with a pillion and two weeks camping gear, most probably not, there are better bikes for doing that.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be capable of the above I'm sure it would, it just wouldn't be my first choice.

Would I take anywhere in this country or Europe, travel off the beaten track and use the road less travelled, with maybe 4 or 5 stone strapped to the back. You bet you life I would.

One thing that did strike me was how robust and well put together it felt. The only thing I didn't really like was the sound of the engine and exhaust note, it sounded a weak and muted, a good exhaust system will sort that, although I'm sure some folks will love it. It just seemed such a shame to strangle that lovely little Guzzi engine, rode back from Thirsk on my Griso with Termingoni exhaust and immediately thought' this is how a Guzzi should sound.

Arrived back at Thirsk just before lunch and the deal was done. Rosso Kalahari, hopefully delivery at the end of April. Sadly my lovely Griso is going in P/ex.

If I've missed anything I'll add it later. Don't forget folks, all of the above is just my opinion.

Just to add, fuelling was perfect.
 
Good review.

Interesting that you thought the gear change very slick , yet the MCN guy thought it was notchy and would benefit from a quick shifter.
But he does only look about 15 from his pic.
 
Good review.

Interesting that you thought the gear change very slick , yet the MCN guy thought it was notchy and would benefit from a quick shifter.
But he does only look about 15 from his pic.

So would a quick shifter make it less notchy......oh no, it’s MCNs way of telling us that we all need a quick shifter.
Do we need one so we can save 0.8 of a second on the daily commute?????
 
So would a quick shifter make it less notchy......oh no, it’s MCNs way of telling us that we all need a quick shifter.
Do we need one so we can save 0.8 of a second on the daily commute?????

Bollox isn't it :rolleyes:

I had a feeling you'd end up getting one Wrinklye, shame the Griso had to go but congratulations on the new bike :beerjug:

Andres
 
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the bike, good to hear that you’ve ordered/bought one.
I’ve never owned a Guzzi, I’ve had brief rides on a couple, but really like the idea of one and the V85TT looked great the first time I saw a picture of it.
So, when I’m back from our travels the trusty old F800GS will probably be due to be replaced...?
 
So would a quick shifter make it less notchy......oh no, it’s MCNs way of telling us that we all need a quick shifter.
Do we need one so we can save 0.8 of a second on the daily commute?????

Of course it wouldn’t . I was simply stating surprise that wrinkleyowlie thought the gear change to be very slick whereas MCN kid thought it the opposite .
 
Bollox isn't it :rolleyes:

I had a feeling you'd end up getting one Wrinklye, shame the Griso had to go but congratulations on the new bike :beerjug:

Andres

Yes, big shame about the Griso, it's a lovely bike. I can only really spend about an hour or so on it before I have to get off and have a little walk around. I Have got some lowering pegs for it but tend to ground them quite a lot. I was so impressed with the V85 that to p/ex the Griso was my only option. I've always had a second bike, but never one that cost 11k. Just can't justify keeping the Griso and don't really have room.
 
Yes, big shame about the Griso, it's a lovely bike. I can only really spend about an hour or so on it before I have to get off and have a little walk around. I Have got some lowering pegs for it but tend to ground them quite a lot. I was so impressed with the V85 that to p/ex the Griso was my only option. I've always had a second bike, but never one that cost 11k. Just can't justify keeping the Griso and don't really have room.

I always wanted a Griso until I rode one.Definitely not designed for an 6”1” old git.

Worst riding position of any bike I’ve ever tried. Shame as I love them !!
 
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Of course it wouldn’t . I was simply stating surprise that wrinkleyowlie thought the gear change to be very slick whereas MCN kid thought it the opposite .

I know that you weren’t saying that, I was commenting on MCNs usual nonsensical criticisms.
 
I know that you weren’t saying that, I was commenting on MCNs usual nonsensical criticisms.

Extrapolating from the article above, Hugo from Bike would suggest his MCN colleague is cackfooted
 
So, to continue.

Loaded with gear, and maybe a pillion I think the bike might struggle a bit, but that depends on how much you want to get on, if your happy to make steady progress I'm sure it would be fine. As a bike with a single rider and maybe some luggage, I would imagine it would take you down any A or B road as quickly as any other bike, and certainly quicker than some much bigger faster bikes. Seating position was lovely, with good leg room and a very natural bar position.

Would I blast it for hundreds of miles down Motorways and fast A roads, most probably not, there are better bikes for doing that.
Would I load it up with a pillion and two weeks camping gear, most probably not, there are better bikes for doing that.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be capable of the above I'm sure it would, it just wouldn't be my first choice.

Would I take anywhere in this country or Europe, travel off the beaten track and use the road less travelled, with maybe 4 or 5 stone strapped to the back. You bet you life I would.

One thing that did strike me was how robust and well put together it felt. The only thing I didn't really like was the sound of the engine and exhaust note, it sounded a weak and muted, a good exhaust system will sort that, although I'm sure some folks will love it. It just seemed such a shame to strangle that lovely little Guzzi engine, rode back from Thirsk on my Griso with Termingoni exhaust and immediately thought' this is how a Guzzi should sound.

Arrived back at Thirsk just before lunch and the deal was done. Rosso Kalahari, hopefully delivery at the end of April. Sadly my lovely Griso is going in P/ex.

If I've missed anything I'll add it later. Don't forget folks, all of the above is just my opinion.

Just to add, fuelling was perfect.

Oh God! I was all set to be sensible and wait a year for a sh one! Thanks Steve. :beerjug:
 
Oh God! I was all set to be sensible and wait a year for a sh one! Thanks Steve. :beerjug:

Me too :P

Well I managed to engineer it that I was working in the Brierley Hill area today so that I could pop into QB Motorcycles to see if they had one in the showroom. I managed to get there around 5pm to find a distinct lack of any Moto Guzzi’s and a hell of a lot of Royal Enfields....it seems that they gave up the Moto Guzzi franchise altogether last year :blast
 


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