New Panigale V4 announced

[Morety]

Sounds like one hell of a machine, 218bhp and wet weight 187Kg (ie unusable on road!). More of a track bike for people with lots of disposable.

Pockets will have to run deep depending on configuration spec:

https://www.ducati.com/gb/en/bikes/...erm=DWP_Panigale_16102026&utm_content=10_2026

 

[Arsey]

Sounds like one hell of a machine, 218bhp and wet weight 187Kg (ie unusable on road!). More of a track bike for people with lots of disposable.

Pockets will have to run deep depending on configuration spec:

https://www.ducati.com/gb/en/bikes/...erm=DWP_Panigale_16102026&utm_content=10_2026

187 kgs is still bloody heavy .
From memory my GSXR1000K5 was 166 kgs.
How is this 20kgs heavier ? That’s a good size filled suitcase !!
Yes it’s got a better power to weight ratio but it’s still a lump .

 

[Morety]

It's about the same weight as my old RSVR. Hardly a lump, but yes, lighter bikes around. Not many lighter with that power though.

A few comparisons:

2026 R1: 203Kg
2026 Fireblade: 200Kg
2026 S1000RR: 196Kg (wet with fuel or 184Kg wet, no fuel)

 

[Arsey]

It's about the same weight as my old RSVR. Hardly a lump, but yes, lighter bikes around. Not many lighter with that power though.

A few comparisons:

2026 R1: 203Kg
2026 Fireblade: 200Kg
2026 S1000RR: 196Kg (wet with fuel or 184Kg wet, no fuel)

Yes but why are they all 20-40 kgs heavier than litre sports bikes of 20 years ago ?

 

[zerax9]

Yes but why are they all 20-40 kgs heavier than litre sports bikes of 20 years ago ?

Emissions crap ?

 

[Morety]

It's a good question Arsey and one I've also been thinking about. Newer forks tend to be beefier (perhaps a kilo or two there), extra emissions controls, more wiring complexity etc...take your pick. I wonder just how much extra weight is in the emissions gubbins including catalytic converters and end pipes. These can account for a significant additional weight. If I did a decat of my 1340 Suzuki for example and replace end cans with Yoshis, I save close on 20Kg just with those changes. My guess is that a lot of it has to be in the emissions controls differences as Zerax9 points out. Ditto with my Ducati. A full akra system plus decat saves over 10Kg for that.

 

[jetjock]

The GSXR 1000K5 wet weight was 200Kg . This Ducati weighs in at 187Kg wet with no fuel , with fuel it’ll be 200kg

 

[Wapping]

It’s not all backwards. The FireBlade when first released weighed in at 185 kg dry / 205 kg wet, very similar to the bike in the opening post. The big difference is the power of course; the FireBlade was ‘only’ 120 bhp at the time. One hell of a bike, just the same.

Out of vague interest, I looked up the weight and quoted bhp power of the last outright sports bike I owned. 169 kg dry / 199 kg wet, with a quoted power of 193 bhp.

 

[timeandtide]

It’s not all backwards. The FireBlade when first released weighed in at 185 kg dry / 205 kg wet, very similar to the bike in the opening post. The big difference is the power of course; the FireBlade was ‘only’ 120 bhp at the time. One hell of a bike, just the same.

Out of vague interest, I looked up the weight and quoted bhp power of the last outright sports bike I owned. 169 kg dry / 199 kg wet, with a quoted power of 193 bhp.

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Complete with Ventura luggage system!

 

[Wapping]

Complete with Ventura luggage system!

Indeed.

It’s still one of the best luggage arrangements around.

 

[fatbob99]

Not so much magnesium used anymore doesn’t help.
Much heavier stuff nowadays

 

[Udders]

Not so much magnesium used anymore doesn’t help.
Much heavier stuff nowadays

Probably using stronger materials nowadays to handle the increase in power?

 

[Berin]

187 kgs is still bloody heavy .
From memory my GSXR1000K5 was 166 kgs.
How is this 20kgs heavier ? That’s a good size filled suitcase !!
Yes it’s got a better power to weight ratio but it’s still a lump .

That must be dry. The figures above show the new Panigale at 187 kg, wet, if those are correct.

 

[Berin]

For lardy road bikes blames Euro regs and exhausts that weight as much as the moon, with thicker engine cases to keep noise down