Agreed, it's not huge, but I can read it fine without my reading glasses. I can't read the main speedo.
None Pro computer, but can you get the MPH to display on the LCD anywhere?
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Agreed, it's not huge, but I can read it fine without my reading glasses. I can't read the main speedo.
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So what about an aftermarket GPS speedo, anyone tried yet, or maybe with an old Tomtom, link below might help.
http://www.webazar.org/tomtom/tripmaster.php?lang=uk
https://www.tomtomforums.com/threads/tripmaster-v3-0-is-available.20252/
http://www.webazar.org/tomtom/tripmaster.php?lang=uk
https://www.tomtomforums.com/threads/tripmaster-v3-0-is-available.20252/
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You can buy GPS speedo units quite cheaply on eBay, though can be a bit of a faff to adapt them to be mounted on the bike. Pics below show a couple I have used. However I have now simplified things by running a phone based GPS and using a speedo app which can float a speed readout over the top of other apps - see top right of display on bottom picture. Totally agree about the not fit for purpose clocks, especially given the aging demographic who buy this bike, and not being able to change the digital MPH readout to km/h when you get off the ferry in Europe is a bad joke by BMW.
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Can you get the MPH to display anywhere?.. I'm finding due to the size of the numbers on the speedo clock, I need a second or two to focus before I can read the speed (not good at speed or just taking your eyes off the road)... I find I always use the LCD display in my Land Rover instead of looking at the needle.
Would be good if I could do this... or is the Pro needed to get speed displayed?
If not I need a trip to Specsavers to get some glasses with magnification just at the bottom
Speed display on the LCD readout is part of the Onboard Computer Pro programme that is standard on the TE, older XE but not the basic model (it only has Onboard Computer ) however ,depending on the production date of the bike and if it has the correct engine sensors fitted it can be reprogrammed into the ECU via a factory update
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You can buy GPS speedo units quite cheaply on eBay, though can be a bit of a faff to adapt them to be mounted on the bike. Pics below show a couple I have used. However I have now simplified things by running a phone based GPS and using a speedo app which can float a speed readout over the top of other apps - see top right of display on bottom picture. Totally agree about the not fit for purpose clocks, especially given the aging demographic who buy this bike, and not being able to change the digital MPH readout to km/h when you get off the ferry in Europe is a bad joke by BMW.
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Nice one Fred now that will help beaver.
On my previous TB I cut up some very small dayglo stickers into triangles and marked 30, 40, 60 and 70 mph.
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That sounds hopeful for the OP, though not if he wants to venture into Europe as mph to km/h is not user configurable, and the inner km/h scale on the speedo is even harder to see!
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Until GS-911 get their finger out and do what they promised in their now to long overdue roadmap............
Them there after market e-bay specials look just the job... are they accurate?... and I guess I can change the KPH for my trip to Disnetland Paris in August
Is the second one a wedge type unit like this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/WElinks-Sp...=1528316419&sr=8-227&keywords=gps+speedometer
also thes, but not cheap?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP02-Car...320689?hash=item441f80f331:g:tV0AAOSwsBda8wQD
Them there after market e-bay specials look just the job... are they accurate?... and I guess I can change the KPH for my trip to Disnetland Paris in August
They'll be more accurate than the bike's speedo when you're travelling at a constant speed, in a straight line on a level road. Note, however, that an NMEA GPS signal updates at a frequency of 1 Hz. There can, therefore, be a lag in the display responding to changes in your speed.
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How true that is I relied on my Nav6 speed and got a ticket, I was 5KPH over the speed limit 10 euro fine, now rely on the Digital readout on cluster as apparently it shows speed a few KPH more than you are actually riding.
An excellent and accurate statement, which is too often ignored.
Not that you'll get the chance to use Galileo, even more accurate.
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Might be worth another thread.........
all not good for sure a premium product
If you'd bought the premium product it would have had Onboard Computer Pro! You can't get the base version to avoid techno bollocks that'll only go wrong and then expect it to have all the fancy facilities - that's called having your cake and eating it too.
indeed... and I guess if you're going up a 30 deg hill it will give a speed relative to the distance travelled as the satalites see it (as if it were flat) and not the actual speed you are doing up the incline?... mind you, not a huge problem
If you'd bought the premium product it would have had Onboard Computer Pro! You can't get the base version to avoid techno bollocks that'll only go wrong and then expect it to have all the fancy facilities - that's called having your cake and eating it too.
I'd say the premium product is buying a BMW...
But there again, I'd also say buying a TE is full of too many gizmos for my liking.
I'm not complaing about not being able to do it.. just asking if I can... I'll buy a bolt on for £25 and if it goes wrong, it will go in the bin.
What I don't like (and its not just BMW I agree).. is the sale of a top of the range product, where you have to buy from the manufacturer 'other' things to make it right.
Seat being a typical example... look on the Kawasaki forum.. how many people are complaining about seats (none)... in comparison with this forum where there are 3 posts in the first few pages?... why have a 'Pro' and a 'Std' computer?... its just a bit more software at zero cost once developed...
They are taking the 'P' out of us all... thats why I bought the base model..
I'd say the premium product is buying a BMW...
But there again, I'd also say buying a TE is full of too many gizmos for my liking.
I'm not complaing about not being able to do it.. just asking if I can... I'll buy a bolt on for £25 and if it goes wrong, it will go in the bin.
What I don't like (and its not just BMW I agree).. is the sale of a top of the range product, where you have to buy from the manufacturer 'other' things to make it right.
Seat being a typical example... look on the Kawasaki forum.. how many people are complaining about seats (none)... in comparison with this forum where there are 3 posts in the first few pages?... why have a 'Pro' and a 'Std' computer?... its just a bit more software at zero cost once developed...
They are taking the 'P' out of us all... thats why I bought the base model..
Can't deny you have a point!
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Them there after market e-bay specials look just the job... are they accurate?... and I guess I can change the KPH for my trip to Disnetland Paris in August
Is the second one a wedge type unit like this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/WElinks-Sp...=1528316419&sr=8-227&keywords=gps+speedometer
also thes, but not cheap?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP02-Car...320689?hash=item441f80f331:g:tV0AAOSwsBda8wQD
You have to be careful if thinking of getting one of these units as they are nearly all intended for use as HUD (head up display) units in cars, so actually display a mirrored image which is then projected onto the windscreen from where it then reads correctly. A few of these units are also able to be switched into non-HUD mode for direct viewing which you need for bike use. This was the case for the one in my first picture, which cost about £25, but had no mounting hardware with it so I had to glue on a RAM mount to use it on the bike. If the description doesn't explicitly say that a unit can be used in non-HUD mode then I would be doubtful because I think a lot of them doctor the pictures of the unit to make the display read correctly in the eBay listings just to show what things they can display.
Regarding accuracy, I used to compare it with the speed reading on my Nav V and it mostly agreed but occasionally would read differently especially at higher speeds when it seemed to give a faster speed than the Nav. Recently it started losing the satellite connection after about 2 hours, and wouldn't then work again until it had been switched off for a while.
The next one I tried (in the second picture) I think cost about £35 and this one was not GPS based but ran off a connection to the OBD II port on my car and also fitted the socket on the GS, which is the rectangular socket required by the Euro 4 standards, unlike earlier bikes which have a round one. While this worked reliably on my car it sometimes wouldn't start up on the bike, and seemed to need to be reset, and once I did some longer rides with it fitted I found it sometimes stopped mid-journey so couldn't really be relied on. When it was working it was very accurate because it was driven from the ECU and displayed the correct speed without the deliberate over-reading that the speedo introduces. It always agreed exactly with those radar road speed signs your see, and was also in close agreement with the satnav. it would also read engine temp and battery voltage, plus it had a rev counter display, but sadly this only read up to a maximum of 6000 rpm, presumably because most cars have their red line about there.
Regarding some comments earlier about GPS being inaccurate on slopes, we had some discussion of this on another forum and after some dredging up of rusty maths skills found that you would have to be going up a very steep slope for the the error to be significant.
