Off to Germany.... Baden Baden / B500 etc

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A mate and I are doing our first week long tour into Europe, Germany next week. Plans have had to change a tad and it now means we’ll be on a Saturday crossing very late afternoon / early evening (staying near Calais)

We’re intending on making an early start Sunday and putting some miles on.

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To save derailing your request for a hotel near Calais. I have created you a fresh thread in the German section,

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KMD said:
Whereabouts in Germany are you heading Lofty?
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Down towards baden-baden, take in the b500 etc. I think we’ll pootle around there and then back up north for a Saturday midday ish train back.
I’ve been taking notes based on the Germany section on here so loads of inspiration and tips.
The trip has been off and on more than I care to think so the detailed planning will be done this week.
Bikes are ready though, just a case of dropping on the panniers and getting gone!


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Just beware. The B500 has speed restrictions in places now and they are enforced. Lots of German rozzers around as well especially for bikes
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grantmac said:
Just beware. The B500 has speed restrictions in places now and they are enforced. Lots of German rozzers around as well especially for bikes
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Yeah, I read that a few days ago.
We’ll obviously obey and all laws and restrictions


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The B500, irrespective of speed restrictions, is still worth doing.

Why? As with say, the Stelvio Pass, it is iconic, being one of the first 'Tourist roads' ever created. Ride it in one direction and, if you think it's terrible, come back another.

Are the manual (police operated) speed restrictions fully enforced every day? No. Will you be lucky and find that the police are not hidden away in every bush and layby? Who knows? Avoiding the popular times (weekends and bank holidays) helps, obviously.
 
I’d Visit Todtmoos, Wolfach , Titsee, Freundenstadt. Just seeing those will put you on good roads.

Enjoy the trip, ride sensibly and you’ll have no issues at all with polizei.

Don’t listen to any doom mongering on here, I’ve ridden all over the world and Germany is a fantastic place to ride.
 
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Take a gander at:

Wapping

Thread 'GPX - Black Forest / Schwarzwald'

I have been sorting out my library of German routes. With such a large country, it’s hard to know how best to organise them, but I’ve made a start anyway.

The Black Forest is a popular ‘Must do’ on these pages, so I thought I’d at least share those I have (so far at least) moved into one master folder. Yes, some will inevitably include the B500. If you don’t like it, tell your mum.

https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/folder/8564711?mode=share

I have a load more but they live on an old PC, which I’ll have to crank into life one day. Before then, I’ve got to do the rest of Germany...
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If I could fire up my old laptop, I’ve got a shedload more.
 
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Eifel national park to Landau all good. B500, gets busy but if you have not done it…the surrounding area has loads of good roads with little traffic.
 
What route are you taking to the Black Forest?

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The suggestion of the hotel in St Quentin I’ve moved to the OP’s French thread.

Richard
 
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I’m currently in Germany having taken the tunnel to an overnight in Laon, before a further motorway journey to a hotel in Baden Baden, which is situated pretty much at the start of the twisty bit of the B500 to Freiburg. At the first bend there is a 50km speed restriction, which is repeated for quite a few miles thereafter. What is frustrating is that the road and most of the bends are able to support much higher speed.

But what I experienced today was car after car trundling along at 30mph, with no one overtaking and basically forming a train of slow moving traffic. If you couldn’t overtake them all, (I was in a car) then you became a part of the train. And it was policed. Vans parked sideways on with speed guns.

Despite it being a very lovely place to be, with outstanding scenery, I don’t think I will come back. It seems to me that a magnificent drivers road has been sanitised to the point it is no longer a drivers road, but more a safe space for elderly Germans to float along in their hybrid cars, enjoying the views.
 
KMD said:
I’m currently in Germany having taken the tunnel to an overnight in Laon, before a further motorway journey to a hotel in Baden Baden, which is situated pretty much at the start of the twisty bit of the B500 to Freiburg. At the first bend there is a 50km speed restriction, which is repeated for quite a few miles thereafter. What is frustrating is that the road and most of the bends are able to support much higher speed.

But what I experienced today was car after car trundling along at 30mph, with no one overtaking and basically forming a train of slow moving traffic. If you couldn’t overtake them all, (I was in a car) then you became a part of the train. And it was policed. Vans parked sideways on with speed guns.

Despite it being a very lovely place to be, with outstanding scenery, I don’t think I will come back. It seems to me that a magnificent drivers road has been sanitised to the point it is no longer a drivers road, but more a safe space for elderly Germans to float along in their hybrid cars, enjoying the views.
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We thought the same 3 weeks ago
8am on a Saturday morning
70 kmh (43mph) limit for the full length of the northern bit from BB to Freudenstadt 🙈
 
Stay off the 500 and use the L roads, there’s still a lot of epic roads to ride there …


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Indeed, I tend to use to 500 in short bursts to join parts of my route.

Essentially zig zagging the Black Forrest.

It usually ends with me paralleling ish the 500 to it’s East.


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JohnnyBoxer said:
Definitely
However if you are going to/from BB it’s difficult to avoid
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Was our situation. Travelling south from BB to an overnight in the German side of Rhinefelden, before dropping down through Switzerland today to Thonon les Bains . Once we’d left the 500/294 the speed restrictions went back to normal .
 
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