Off to see the Wizard

[Toddmeister]

- I just like to understand what the compromises made are - nothing wrong in that.

I'm in total agreement with Engineer on this one!

Mark - I'll be calling you next week as a returning customer to book the new XR in.

Please could you provide me a detailed specification of the biscuits you're currently providing. I would prefer Garibaldi, but if compromises have to be made please could you confirm you can at least provide Hobnobs, or as an absolute minimum Rich Tea.

I want to know what I'm letting myself in for and you can't be too careful these days

 

[Warlord]

Well I think I've contributed to a balanced and open debate on remap benefits and pitfalls.

I've nothing else to add at this point except if my bike starts to play up and after my warranty is finished, if I've still got this bike I'd go to Hilltop for my remap.

 

[Engineer]

Haha INCOMING

Take it line by line and tell me where I'm incorrect. Happy to be proven wrong

No,no you misunderstand I agree with you - I am the bad guy, heretic, as far as Hilltop re-mapping goes - the incoming FLAK will be from others.

 

[Engineer]

BMW cannot see the remap so your warranty will not be affected and they cannot overwrite it either. Whether you decide to declare it to them or to your insurance company is a matter of personal conscience. I would of course recommend that you do so!!!

When I had my first bike done by Geoff (probably 7 years ago now) it was because I was at my wits' end with it. I loved the bike but hated the way the engine ran. Within half a mile of riding away I felt totally differently. The difference was amazing and a bike that was about to go up for sale stayed with me for another 3 years. The engine is the soul of a motorcycle, much more so than in a car, and an engine that runs in such a way that it adds to your enjoyment rather than detracts from it is worth a lot more than the few hundred quid it costs to make it like that.

No one could disagree with any of that

 

[HilltopMark]

Toddmeister: The cupboard is currently emptier than a hermit's address book, unless you want a Tom Yum noodle mix with your tea? Garibaldis are banned because Geoff eats them too quickly. However if I purchased them on the day I could probably get them into your hands before he spotted them

 

[Nutty]

Smoke and mirrors then

It's just a new name for it, that's all.

 

[Magnet]

.....

Honest Answer... no axe to grind, but people should know...

Downsides are:

3) Modification, if not declared could invalidate your Insurance. As this mod is definately a hot topic for declaring.

I declared to my insurance co yesterday. No problem and no increase in premium

4) Potential increase in insurance premium. Or worse, some insurance companies not willing to quote at all, leaving less competitive options. Your current Insurance could be invalid immediately as they wont even quote for it.

See above

6) If using the map for smoothing or economy. How long will it take you to recover the costs associated with a remap, before you start benefitting financially.... if ever

Definitely for smoothing, with excellent results. Don't care about recouping money, it was worth it

 

[Skid06]

also the map is also guaranteed undetectable..i asked the main tech at my dealers to check with no results ( we are mates )

 

[Nutty]

also the map is also guaranteed undetectable..i asked the main tech at my dealers to check with no results ( we are mates )

I did the same thing 2 bikes ago. They couldn't find anything.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

It's just a new name for it, that's all.

Marketing speak...............to draw in the punters

 

[Spareparts]

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6) If using the map for smoothing or economy. How long will it take you to recover the costs associated with a remap, before you start benefitting financially.... if ever?

Let's be clear: the remap definitely does not improve economy. It makes it worse. The remap produces more power, lean AFR is enriched, and the only cause of these results is you're burning more fuel. I averaged 47mpg before the remap over 4k miles. Post-remap, I am averaging 44mpg over 1.5k miles.

 

[batman1]

How odd....The MPG on my bike improved after my re-map, I'd just assumed that it was because the engine was running more efficiently.

Funnily enough it improved on my BMW 330D car too, and also the performance...and also the flexibility

Maybe I was just lucky.

 

[Davy F]

How odd....The MPG on my bike improved after my re-map, I'd just assumed that it was because the engine was running more efficiently.

Funnily enough it improved on my BMW 330D car too, and also the performance...and also the flexibility

Maybe I was just lucky.

Mine's pretty much the same or slightly better.....I certainly haven't noticed it being worse.

 

[Nutty]

Marketing speak...............to draw in the punters

You think? It used to be called Dynamic, and is now called Dynamic Pro, the same as on their other bikes. If anyone is daft enough to buy one just for the word 'Pro', more fool them.

 

[Nutty]

Mine's pretty much the same or slightly better.....I certainly haven't noticed it being worse.

Mine is definitely better. About 20 miles to a tank better, so far.

 

[Rushy]

Oh ok haha. Sounds pompus but I've always had new bikes so wouldn't know, never keep older ones long enough.

Not pompous at all, just elitist

 

[Warlord]

Not pompous at all, just elitist

Bloody daft more like

 

[Fat Biker 66]

Mine is definitely better. About 20 miles to a tank better, so far.

+1 slightly better

 

[CPJS]

My bike does 52 mpg after remap, 49 before.

 

[EVskiy]

My bike does 52 mpg after remap, 49 before.

I've seen 64 on my commute to and from work post remap, averaging around 59-60 at the moment. Before remap 55 tops. Achieved as a trial max 57, but that was riding like a Sunday rider


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