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...another test ride.

So I left my K1300r in for a service yesterday and took the toilet for a run. Had the 09 GS but it suffered badly from a couple of hard winters and whilst I enjoyed it, could leave friends on an R1 and Blade on the twisties, it just always felt a bit, well, wheezy for anything top end. Yes yes, I know, it wasn't designed to be that kind of bike, hence the change to the K as a mix of power and comfort, but I quickly realised why the GS is/was as good as it is all round. Anyway, took the LC for a run and here's my tuppence...

Hopped on, felt reasonable - I'm about 5'8 and whilst I never struggled with the previous GS (seat high at front, low at back), I was on the balls of my feet again. The LC doesn't feel significantly lower, but easier to manoeuvre. Weight not as apparent, clutch pretty light with an early biting point and a very sensitive fbw throttle. Seat was broad, actually a bit firmer than the seat on my K, but comfortable. Heading off and I immediately felt the difference in the lightness of the front end, both from memory of my GS and the K, and the throttle was very light, very sensitive. Slotting into 1st was easy, smooth as were all selections from there on, no clunks, false neutrals nor anything agricultural about the gearbox. The biggest surprise was how the engine spun up. For those of you who have ridden it, I headed out to Larne then took the coast road to Cushendun, then Torr Road to Ballycastle. Winding on, the torque was great, with the only annoyance being the change up indicator on the display. If anything, however, it proved just how torquey the engine is, pulling from just over 2000rpm in 6th and with a good kick in the arse. Once I got onto the coast road and getting back into the GS headspace of just how far the bike can lean, I decided to explore things a bit further. Speed builds surprisingly quickly and the engine revs very very freely - a total change to the previous. Getting above 5000rpm introduces a bit of a rush which just doesn't feel like it'll fall away and that was to, umm, 'good' speeds. Gearbox was great and that was with a good variety of use.

The ESA feels very different too to the older model. Nowhere near as noticeable in the differences between soft, normal and hard but still effective. Despite the weather giving me rain, wind, standing water, patchiness and dry stretches, Road mode was great and Dynamic just introduced a greater immediacy to the already sensitive throttle. Great great fun. I didn't bother with Rain mode tbh. The front end has a much lighter feel, but pushing it felt no less stable, even though the wide bars give a very immediate, almost twitchy sense when pushing on. No weaves or tankslappers experienced. I did get a few vibes around the 4500rpm mark which brought on an occasional numbness but I think I suffer from a bit of CTS as I've found this at times with almost every bike I've owned.

Screen was good, no need to raise beyond base setting, clocks were fine but a bit cluttered with unnecessary info and I'd agree with others the speedo figures could be larger. Switchgear was good, solid, no issues with the indicators coming from the K though I noticed the cruise control didn't engage after the fuel light came on - I'm presuming that's in the design to prevent folk from inadvertently cruising on until empty. Motorway run back was fine and again torque in 6th was great for overtaking without need for a change.

Would I trade the 13R for the new GS? In a word, yes, if I had the money. Has the immediacy I missed, a good top end, comfort, pillion friendly, the capability to carry a stack of luggage and it put a smile on my face. It's the GS I imagined it could be two years ago.

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Nice review and exactly how I found the GS to be. This is the GS I have been waiting for....and why I've ordered one :D
 
Interesting I went from an 05 and 07 GS to a 09 K1300R. I am now on my 3rd K1300R but am looking forward to trying the new bike:rolleyes:

The K1300R is a good bike and a better tourer than you would think though:thumb2

Tuff choice:nenau

Dave
 
It seems the only thing you didn't like is the change-up indicator in the display and it's clutter.

The change up indicator is user selectable in the set-up menu, it's controlled by the Eco-Soft option.

And as for the clutter. You are right, but at least you can configure what is displayed. Personally I like to see tank range in top right and speed in top left. And I retain options to cycle through odo, oil, trips, tyre pressure, temp and voltage.
 
Krytengs, nice one. Enjoy when you get it.

Dave, I love the 13R and have toured on it too but I took SWMBO out on my GS, then changed to the R and she doesn't find it comfy at all. An Airhawk has helped that though. I guess it's down to the state of the roads too - as I found on the 09 GS, the suspension just soaks ups the bumps without compromising the handling so you can really press on. Hopping back on the R and it has a more solid feel from the front end but obviously less travel in the suspension, it kinda felt hard, harder and hardest on the ESA settings. It's just the nature of the bike. Still love it :D

Ideally, I'd have both :rolleyes:
 
It seems the only thing you didn't like is the change-up indicator in the display and it's clutter.

The change up indicator is user selectable in the set-up menu, it's controlled by the Eco-Soft option.

And as for the clutter. You are right, but at least you can configure what is displayed. Personally I like to see tank range in top right and speed in top left. And I retain options to cycle through odo, oil, trips, tyre pressure, temp and voltage.

Bang on Jumblemo. The bike is really great. I didn't take the time to jump into display selections but good to know for future ref. have seen your previous posts so know you're an owner, enjoy! :thumb
 
Excellent report. Thank you for taking the trouble.

I loved my test ride and have a TE on order, sadly it is likely be deferred until March next year but the best things in life are worth waiting for.
 
Excellent report. Thank you for taking the trouble.

I loved my test ride and have a TE on order, sadly it is likely be deferred until March next year but the best things in life are worth waiting for.

Thanks MA, it was, in fact, my pleasure :D

It'll be a while before I look to change, but no harm in trying one out. Roll on next Spring :thumb
 
" I noticed the cruise control didn't engage after the fuel light came on - I'm presuming that's in the design to prevent folk from inadvertently cruising on until empty."

Was not aware of this, if correct, good idea, have to test it out sometime........
 
Krytengs, nice one. Enjoy when you get it.

Dave, I love the 13R and have toured on it too but I took SWMBO out on my GS, then changed to the R and she doesn't find it comfy at all. An Airhawk has helped that though. I guess it's down to the state of the roads too - as I found on the 09 GS, the suspension just soaks ups the bumps without compromising the handling so you can really press on. Hopping back on the R and it has a more solid feel from the front end but obviously less travel in the suspension, it kinda felt hard, harder and hardest on the ESA settings. It's just the nature of the bike. Still love it :D

Ideally, I'd have both :rolleyes:

Have you got the comfort seat? My wife finds the seat fine but says she does have to lean away from the top box on bumpy roads as the suspension is harder than the GS. I run it in 'comfort' on the motorway to help but thats too bouncy on the back roads. She did try an 'air-hawk cushion' but didn't get on with it:nenau

I find the K1300 rock solid on the motorway compared to the GS which I used to find got quite effected by cross winds. I would have the K1300 to travel to the Alps then the GS when I got there in an ideal world:cool:

The GS may be the better bike now it has a bit more power?

Can you have a quick-shifter though:clap

Dave
 
Have you got the comfort seat? My wife finds the seat fine but says she does have to lean away from the top box on bumpy roads as the suspension is harder than the GS. I run it in 'comfort' on the motorway to help but thats too bouncy on the back roads. She did try an 'air-hawk cushion' but didn't get on with it:nenau

I find the K1300 rock solid on the motorway compared to the GS which I used to find got quite effected by cross winds. I would have the K1300 to travel to the Alps then the GS when I got there in an ideal world:cool:

The GS may be the better bike now it has a bit more power?

Can you have a quick-shifter though:clap

Dave

Dave, no, don't have the comfort seat, was actually looking at the Sargent offering as that seems to have a much more considerate pillion shape. The Airhawk seems ok but why they make it with only one grippy side is beyond me. Going to wrap it in anti slip material to start with. My better half isn't a regular feature on the bike but getting her out more isn't going to happen without a bit more comfort. As I said, I find it to be great!

Comfort and normal are good for me, sport feels like its really for a track day after I was a bit enthusiastic on a B road and it kicked me up over a few bumpy sections :rolleyes:

And yeah, the quick shifter is excellent.

I can't honestly say the GS is a 'better' bike, but it's definitely more of an all rounder. Have to say, I do like the fact that there aren't a heap of 13R's out there, by comparison it's looking like there'll be more LC's than cars soon :aidan

Phil
 
Dave, no, don't have the comfort seat, was actually looking at the Sargent offering as that seems to have a much more considerate pillion shape. The Airhawk seems ok but why they make it with only one grippy side is beyond me. Going to wrap it in anti slip material to start with. My better half isn't a regular feature on the bike but getting her out more isn't going to happen without a bit more comfort. As I said, I find it to be great!

Comfort and normal are good for me, sport feels like its really for a track day after I was a bit enthusiastic on a B road and it kicked me up over a few bumpy sections :rolleyes:

And yeah, the quick shifter is excellent.

I can't honestly say the GS is a 'better' bike, but it's definitely more of an all rounder. Have to say, I do like the fact that there aren't a heap of 13R's out there, by comparison it's looking like there'll be more LC's than cars soon :aidan

Phil

Phil it's a shame you can't try a comfort seat to see if it helps. My wife goes on the back for all my longer trips we have done 3.5K miles in 2 weeks and have 2 x 2.5K trips booked for this year. The trouble I normally have is the wife falling asleep:eek: Still haven't lost her yet:rolleyes:

Dave
 
Phil it's a shame you can't try a comfort seat to see if it helps. My wife goes on the back for all my longer trips we have done 3.5K miles in 2 weeks and have 2 x 2.5K trips booked for this year. The trouble I normally have is the wife falling asleep:eek: Still haven't lost her yet:rolleyes:

Dave

Dave, will pop into the dealers and double check regarding the seat as I do find it very comfy (the bike was 6months old when i got it so never checked regarding the comfort seat). Good going on the trips, maybe a couple of Rok straps would help secure your wife to bike... No more worries about her falling asleep ;)
 


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