Ohlins adjustment/set-up

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I've fitted a new front & newly serviced Ohlins shock to the rear but I'm having difficulty with the sag/ride height settings.

The bike is a std 1150GS with no panniers and a 11st 5lb (3lb after a dump) rider and there's about 1/2 a tank of fuel in it.

I've attached measuring tapes to the fork leg and rear of the frame so they don't move and marked the measuring point on the lower fork and bevel housing for consistent measurements.

Unloaded sag is measured with the wheels off the floor and the rear hydraulic pre-load adjuster is set mid point which only leaves me with half the range to play with.

Unloaded dimension is measured at R1 539mm Rr and F1 740mm Fr

Free sag measured at R2 521 (18mm sag Rr) and F2 696 (44mm sag Fr)

Ride height measured at R3 494 (45mm sag Rr) and F3 687 (53mm sag Fr)

I've looked at the prescribed sag measurement but they appear significantly different.

With the rear hydraulic preload adjuster turn up to max the free sag/ride height figures are as follows:-

Free sag measured at R2 527 (12mm sag Rr) and F2 696 (44mm sag Fr)

Ride height measured at R3 504 (35mm sag Rr) and F3 688 (52mm sag Fr)

Prescribed dimensions are:-

Free sag (R1-R2) is 5–15mm and (F2-F2) 20-30mm
Ride height ((R1-R3) is 25-35mm and (F1-F3) 30-40mm.

Even with the rear hydraulic adjuster up to max I am barely achieving the correct rear ride height figure and it leaves me no further adjustment for additional weight and the rear shock is not designed with pre-load adjustment for the spring, so it would effectively need a new/heavier spring which I find hard to believe me being a slim whippet and all.

The front is adjustable on spring pre-load so I can just up the pre-load on that end to achieve the correct figures.

I find it hard to believe that the shock would be this far out from new/full service.

When I first bought the rear shock and prior to service it felt like a bag of shit so I thought a full service was in order.

I’ll set the front pre-load to correct the Fr figures but I can’t do anything to the rear shock as I’m out of adjustment.

Any thought before I send it back to FTR
 
Can anybody with the Ohlins booklet for the 1150GS shock confirm if these are the correct figures:-

Free sag (R1-R2) is 5–15mm and (F1-F2) 20-30mm
Ride height ((R1-R3) is 25-35mm and (F1-F3) 30-40mm.
 
Can anybody with the Ohlins booklet for the 1150GS shock confirm if these are the correct figures:-

Free sag (R1-R2) is 5–15mm and (F2-F2) 20-30mm
Ride height ((R1-R3) is 25-35mm and (F1-F3) 30-40mm.

That's what it says in the Ohlins book:thumb
 
Thanks Tim, then it looks like I need a stiffer rear spring:confused:
 
I'll remove the rear and send it back to FTR for them to have a look.

There's always the possibility that they didn't service it properly.
 
When I first bought the rear shock and prior to service it felt like a bag of shit so I thought a full service was in order.

At your weight I doubt you'd need a stiffer spring, perhaps it has the wrong one fitted or the manual pre load is set wrong. I think standard is 140NM. But what your describing does sound like a weak spring.

It may be worth asking Andy White (Kais suspension 01942 896366) for his opinion.
 
MCT have also setup quite a few GS with Ohlins.

very friendly bunch, they also do ride-in, ride-out service, they sorted my last bike in a morning including rebuilding forks and shock, set the thing up and then let me out to make sure I was 100% happy before I left.
 
I've already had it serviced at FTR and it feels exactly the same as before it was serviced :confused:.

Way too soft, and I agree my weight shouldn't trouble the spring in the slightest.

I've removed the rear shock re-fitted the original and I'll send it back to FTR for a review.

If they tell me all is well then I would have to conclude that the spring is too soft, perhaps a new std spring would do the trick.

Thanks for the contact No's

I will keep you posted.
 
MCT have also setup quite a few GS with Ohlins.

very friendly bunch, they also do ride-in, ride-out service, they sorted my last bike in a morning including rebuilding forks and shock, set the thing up and then let me out to make sure I was 100% happy before I left.

Out of interest how much did it cost?
 
I can't find my measurements right now but I do remember that the Ohlins figures were way off. After going through the same procedures as you did, I searched various forums and most GSers seem to aim for about one third travel when you're sat on the bike.

My 1100GS Ohlins came as standard with a 160 spring and it was great for two-up touring but hopeless when solo (I'm 92kg). I swapped it for a 140 and the bike is much happier now - I can actually feel what the back tyre is doing. Two-up is also fine although I might put the 160 back on for any serious touring with luggage.

Maybe you could check the sag with the standard shock and compare? Even if the damper is shot the spring won't be far out.

BTW, thumbs up for Will at FTR - top bloke.

HTH
Dick
 
Once I can get one of the kids away from the TV i'll check the sag with the std shock which i've just re-fitted. :thumb
 
With the std old BMW Showa rear shock refitted and sag set to the best figures I can achieve the following is with the pre-load adjuster turned right up:-

Free sag measured at R2 528 (12mm sag Rr) and F2 700 (40mm sag Fr)

Ride height measured at R3 497 (43mm sag Rr) and F3 690 (50mm sag Fr)

This give me R2 within spec but R3 8mm above the upper limit.

Guess I'll live with it until I can get the Ohlins sorted.
 
Just found the Ohlins booklet and mounting instructions

It appears that the booklet settings are a little bit different to the Mounting instructions

Prescribed dimensions in the booklet are:-

Free sag (R1-R2) is 5–15mm and (F1-F2) 20-30mm
Ride height ((R1-R3) is 25-35mm and (F1-F3) 30-40mm.

Prescribed dimensions in the mounting instructions are:-

Free sag (R1-R2) is 5–15mm and (F1-F2) 40-50mm
Ride height ((R1-R3) is 25-35mm and (F1-F3) 55-65mm.

Which makes more sense now, I've backed off the front preload to increase the sag to where it was originally plus one additional turn.
 
Rear Ohlins back off bike and returned to FTR to raise the pre-load adjuster.

Hopefully have it back for the weekend.
 
Rear Ohlins returned this morning and just fitted.

FTR raised the pre-load adjuster and all appears to be within basic speck now.

Free sag & Ride height both on top limit without any adjustment.

TFFT thought I was loosing my marbles for a moment there.:D

Just need a good test ride now.
 
And don't forget to adjust them every time you carry something on the back, or when it rains, or when it's really hot/cold, or when the road surface changes from rough to smooth.................it just goes on and on and on:augie

Ooo, and don't forget to get them rebuilt every 20,000 miles of so as well:D
 
And don't forget to adjust them every time you carry something on the back, or when it rains, or when it's really hot/cold, or when the road surface changes from rough to smooth................

plus if like so many on here you enjoy paranoia... :D

rubber to pack the spring... :augie

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and tape to hold it all in place... :augie

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for when the body cracks... :blast

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and creates a mess... :eek:

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