oil resistant clutch friction plate?

[Colt]

Hi,I am looking at having the clutch changed on my r1150gs
has anyone changed theirs to a Clutch oil resistant friction plate or any reports on them please?
thanks ,Jason

 

[Colt]

I have seen siebenrock make them and have their own info on them.
just after some feedback if you have any thanks.

 

[kirky1298]

Personally I wouldnt bother , unless you have been plagued by oil contaminated clutches in the past or your planning a round the world trip where spares may be sparse . Just my thoughts .

 

[Vern]

I put one in mine last year,and it does the job just fine so far.

I had to do lots of thinking whether it was worth the extra 70 quid or not,and decided it was for me. A seal can go anytime,anywhere,and that instantly involves a new clutch,so there is your 70 quid saving gone.Plus you have get a new clutch and change it if you are in the middle of nowhere,because you aren't going very far with a clutch soaked in oil.

I think Tsiklonaut had one in his 1100 when a seal went on him in the middle of africa,and he just rode home to estonia keeping an eye on the oil level.

There you go,that's my two bobs worth

 

[ahutcheon]

So is it just 70 quid, or is there any difference in the way the clutch behaves. Doesn't sound like much money, if it isn't grabby, doesn't wear out more quickly...

 

[Bikerbuk]

I put one on my 1200GS after the seal went. It was just about £70 extra and made absolutely no difference to the feel of the clutch. If you need/want that peace of mind then it's worth it.

 

[cookie]

i'm just putting one in an airhead for a friend. it's more like £100 extra.

 

[motobiker]

what would be the result if the seal gave way BIG TIME and the gear box oil flooded the clutch? could that result in a damaged gear box - which you'd never know about because the 'early warning sign' - a badly slipping or failed clutch - won't happen?

Chap who replaced my clutch told me these were a waste of time - 'no need if the job is done properly' - he said.

 

[cookie]

what would be the result if the seal gave way BIG TIME and the gear box oil flooded the clutch? could that result in a damaged gear box - which you'd never know about because the 'early warning sign' - a badly slipping or failed clutch - won't happen?

Chap who replaced my clutch told me these were a waste of time - 'no need if the job is done properly' - he said.

don't worry, the "early warning sign" in that case would be finding oneself sliding down the road on one's arse as the back tyre would be covered in oil

 

[Vern]

I'm afarid the chap who changed your clutch is talking complete bollox.Does he guarentee the clutch until it is worn out,as he must have done it properly,so if the oil seal goes,it can only be his fault,as he didn't do it properly.

The clutch in mine made no real difference to the feel at all,and they are meant to last a lot longer than the stock ones,which will be interseting as my clutches last 120000 -140000 miles anyway,so I'm not looking at putting another one in for a while

 

[Steptoe]

I've seen more problems with clutch/gearbox input shaft splines worn than i ever have with clutches soaked in oil.

 

[davegs]

Clutches

Interesting but what sort of oil is it proof against?.

 

[motobiker]

I'm afarid the chap who changed your clutch is talking complete bollox.Does he guarentee the clutch until it is worn out,as he must have done it properly,so if the oil seal goes,it can only be his fault,as he didn't do it properly.
while

No.. no guarantee. I asked him if it was worth the extra cash - a simple question and not a huge amount extra in the scheme of things. the above was his response - maybe my paraphrasing was a bit clumsy. It was more than a few years ago. When somebody who knows more than me and works on these bikes day in - day out says ' save your money'. I tend to listen. i don't worry about the clutch on my bike.

I've seen more problems with clutch/gearbox input shaft splines worn than i ever have with clutches soaked in oil.

and this is all the confirmation I need.

 

[cookie]

normal clutch in my own bike.

 

[Colt]

Ok no fighting at the back.
so the sales blurb is it only takes a few drops of oil to reach the BMW clutch friction plate, for example from a leaking rear crank seal, to bring sudden death to a conventional dry clutch. Especially when abroad, this can easily cost a couple of days as a clutch replacement is time-consuming. Developed in Germany this is a new dry clutch plate which unlike the original BMW part is fully operational even in a bath of oil! This can mean a huge plus for globetrotter, touring motorcyclists and anyone who travels a lot and relies on their bike. Extensively tested on the racetrack this plate also has demonstrated it can transfer much higher torque than the original even under extreme stress. With its wear resistant coating it also has the merit of a significantly longer life compared with the original part.
Just remember to keep topping up the oil until the leak is repaired!

the price different on Motorworks is a hundred quid more for an oil resistant on than the standard one.

so back to pays your money and takes your chance?
It seems that if you do have oil contamination then the oil resistant one would save the replacement clutch and labour cost/time,delay etc
over a standard one. Which would cost a lot more than the purchase price.

 

[Black Rooster]

Interesting but what sort of oil is it proof against?.

Oil thread ya beauty
it proof against chip pan oil

 

[Bendy toy]

On cars the gearbox input shaft seal is the usual culprit for an oiled clutch.

Its common sense to ALWAYS check the gearbox input bearing for roughness or free play and if any doubt change it. To be honest, I would prefer to change the gearbox bearing and seal as matter of course. But only if it doesnt demand a total gearbox stripdown.

The BMW boxers have a similar setup so do the same checks.

 

[Colt]

fwiw .I bought the siebenrock one so lets see how it goes.
Thanks to Vern for fitting it