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It's always been an aggravation with my 1150GS that on a long main road cruise the low fuel light illuminates at around 160-180 miles and when you fill up you can only get 16 litres into it. The cause of course is that fuel is only taken from the right lobe of the tank and the two sides aren't connected. I wanted to solve this without resort to welding and the need to repaint the tank afterwards.

My prototype fix for this consists of 1 metre of fuel grade hose, 1 T-piece and a non return valve, all bought from Demon Tweeks.

The non return valve had a spring in it which took too much pressure to operate so I dismantled the unit, removed the spring and let the little ball valve work by gravity.

Next I cut two pieces of hose, one to feed into each lobe of the tank, connecting them to the T-piece but using it as a Y-piece. I then cut a shorter length to attach to the remaining arm on the T-piece at one end and to the “in” side of the non return valve. Finally another short piece of hose was connected to the “out” side of the valve.

Next I removed the filler cap and then the filler neck tube from the top of the tank. Using simple hand tools I cut a small recess into the bottom of the tube at the front sized to make the tube out from the NR valve a push fit, tight enough to hold the tube in place.

I then lowered the tubes into the front of each tank lobe and wedged the T(Y)-piece in front of the baffle plate that runs left of centre almost to the front of the tank. I then formed a small loop in the tube leading to the NR valve and located that by pushing the “out” side tube into the bottom of the filler neck tube. The fill tube and cap where then re-assembled. It was sunny when I did it so just leaving the cap “O” ring seal in the sun caused fuel to evaporate and it shrank back small enough to re-use.

How does it work? As you fill the tank the air is pushed out of the hose through the NR valve and with the well known drilled neck mod the fuel level can be brought right over the top of the hose located at the base of the neck. The petrol pump nozzle just fits past this hose. The hose is now full of fuel so as it is used and the level drops below the top of the tank “saddle” it starts to syphon from the left lobe to balance the levels. The idea seems to work very well running to 200+ miles before the light comes on. I am regularly running to 230+ miles and putting >23 litres of fuel into the tank. I pushed my luck the other day and ended up putting more than 24 litres into a standard 1150GS tank:D

I'll be making a better mark II version, probably with ductile copper pipe that will stay in place better in the tank.
 
That's very ingenious - and I expect more efficient and calm than trying to move petrol around the tank by touching the cylinder heads down
 
I made a similar but cruder version on my first 1150, just a tee piece in the top of the tank, with 2 weighted pipes into each lobe.

The 'T' faced up with a short pipe to syphon fuel up then blanked off with a bolt...few gobfulls of petrol brought it to premature retirement and just filled the tank a bit sooner:blast:D
 
Is there any reason why you could not just put a linking pipe at low level beneath the frame tube?
 
As in OP I didn't want to drill and or weld/braze fittings to the tank and then cough up for re-finishing. I may do that when it nmeeds repainting anyway:)
 
As in OP I didn't want to drill and or weld/braze fittings to the tank and then cough up for re-finishing. I may do that when it nmeeds repainting anyway:)

And welding petrol tanks can be such a blast :D

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I made a similar but cruder version on my first 1150, just a tee piece in the top of the tank, with 2 weighted pipes into each lobe.

The 'T' faced up with a short pipe to syphon fuel up then blanked off with a bolt...few gobfulls of petrol brought it to premature retirement and just filled the tank a bit sooner:blast:D

Crude is as crude does :augie Thought you'd like to know the more modern, sleeker, faster GS12ADV has a transfer pump to do this job :P:P
Tube and bolts.....well I never:eek:
:aidan
 
Seems an odd thing to be worried about, purely from my own perspective. So on a straight line Mway ride the light comes on 40 miles early. No worries.. by the 160/180 mile point I'm MORE than ready for a stop. Mway riding has to be THE most tedious chore there is. I'm not going to start fiddling with the tank on my bike simply to punish myself a little more.

ok.. so Im not a natural born masochist. we can't all be. :augie
 
I have noticed the shorter range on motorway trips, thing is I know there is fuel in there, so I just treat it as an extra reserve, I seem able to do 160 miles before I need to do anything and I am ready for a smoke and a stretch by then, it comes as a pleasant surprise at the pump too when it does not cost as much to fill.
Stewart
 
Crude is as crude does :augie Thought you'd like to know the more modern, sleeker, faster GS12ADV has a transfer pump to go wrong :P:P
Tube and bolts.....well I never:eek:
:aidan

Fixed.. you're welcome... :D
 
Hmm. When I went to Russia back in '08, the chap I rode with had one of these fitted to his 2001 GS whereas mine was standard.

We both found we were feeling ready to fill up at 180-200 miles and were putting the same amounts of fuel in. He didn't feel that his bike was going to reliably do vast amounts more mileage before a fill up was vital. I guess that's a perception thing. Mind you, we were both getting very good mpg from the bikes because we were doing a steady 60 or so pretty much all the time.

So is it really worth fitting something to eke out those extra miles? Dunno. I guess if it's a long way to the next fuel station, it gives a little reassurance, although I've had >225 miles from a tankful when being very frugal indeed (mainly when in those "where the hell's the next petrol station" situations).
 
There was a Belgian guy called Henri who had a website years ago, he was an aircraft engineer who made a simple syphon that kept the fuel level even in both lobes - cost pennies to make and worked well. Can't find the link any more though :nenau
 
Save yourself the money.

I do a Crazy Ivan at the bottom of every hour.

Not only does it slosh your fuel around. It relieves the bordom on those long motorway journeys and keeps any Americans who are following you on their toes.
 
I do a Crazy Ivan at the bottom of every hour.

Not only does it slosh your fuel around. It relieves the bordom on those long motorway journeys and keeps any Americans who are following you on their toes.

You, Sir, are A Comedy Genius :D:D

Plus you owe me a keyboard as this one is full of coffee!
 


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