morty
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get yourself an almax immobiliser 4 & a squire ss65cs. weighs a bit but it'll stop joe ordinary from nicking you bike.its a fecker of a chain.
Padlock & Chain Dilemma
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Bendy toy
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Ask the insurance if a decent quality cable is acceptable. If they say yes get it in writing. Otherwise by a lighter chain from Wickes. A chain is a chain. Oh yes!
As for the 5Kg top case weight limit ...
I have the Adventure which has a metal top case weighing best part of 3Kg plus an additional rack on top of the standard rack. Are BMW saying it can carry only 1 or 2 Kg of cargo? Probably yes, but its a get of of jail free clause for them because they dont want to work out a realistic safe cargo weight.
Load the bike and get out and ride. If it feels overloaded it probably is so get rid of some heavy stuff until it rides like it should.
As for the 5Kg top case weight limit ...
I have the Adventure which has a metal top case weighing best part of 3Kg plus an additional rack on top of the standard rack. Are BMW saying it can carry only 1 or 2 Kg of cargo? Probably yes, but its a get of of jail free clause for them because they dont want to work out a realistic safe cargo weight.
Load the bike and get out and ride. If it feels overloaded it probably is so get rid of some heavy stuff until it rides like it should.
mark2jag
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Wear it..
just wear it over your bike gear, either over one shoulder and round yer body or just round yer neck like a rappers charm . You'll look so hard when you arrive no one will even dare to steal your bike!!!!!
Coat, found
leaving, check.
Mark
just wear it over your bike gear, either over one shoulder and round yer body or just round yer neck like a rappers charm . You'll look so hard when you arrive no one will even dare to steal your bike!!!!!
Coat, found
leaving, check.
Mark
Buy a chain, any chain, and keep the receipt.
Leave chain at home, but take padlock key with you.
If bike is stolen show the insurance company the receipt and key.
Sell chain when you get back home.
If bike isn't stolen repeat every rideout until it is.
montcaret
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padlock and chain dilemma
My French AXA insurance stipulates the type of chain and padlock that must be used doesn't stipulate the chain and bike being connected to anything ...like a lamp post etc
I had previously bought an alarmed disc lock but was told by the insurers that would not validate the policy's theft cover
So 120 Euros worth of chain and padlock it had to be
My French AXA insurance stipulates the type of chain and padlock that must be used doesn't stipulate the chain and bike being connected to anything ...like a lamp post etc
I had previously bought an alarmed disc lock but was told by the insurers that would not validate the policy's theft cover
So 120 Euros worth of chain and padlock it had to be
I wrapped mine around my pannier struts between bike and inside of pannier case. Worked fine.
Buy a chain, any chain, and keep the receipt.
Leave chain at home, but take padlock key with you.
If bike is stolen show the insurance company the receipt and key.
Sell chain when you get back home.
If bike isn't stolen repeat every rideout until it is.
+1
Or ride around on a beat up high mileage F800GS ... who in their right mind would steal something like that
The weight limit for luggage is pathetic, I've regularly had overladen luggage compared to the recommendations without any problems. No doubt they are covering their arses after extensive factory testing/development to avoid accident blame/claim.
Bendy toy
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Load the bike and get out and ride. If it feels overloaded it probably is so get rid of some heavy stuff until it rides like it should.
Dont take more than the basic tool kit. Do take an AA (or whatever) membership.
Dont take clothes just in case you might need them Buy stuff over there if necessary.
Dont take spare oil (or any other fluid) its sold all over the world.
Dont take more than the bare necessaries in toiletries. People wash on the continent as well as on this side of the channel. Also take a small microfibre towel its all you actually need.
Dont take a laptop computer. Do take a good smartphone and lots of memory card for the camera. These goodies will cost but how much is a laptop worth when it gets broken by vibration or stolen?
Apply the same rules to everything you might need and the standard cases will do the job.
About 10 years ago I flew over to Italy to do some alpine riding with my brother. I took the clothes on my back and wore my bike boots and coat. I had a small hand luggage with shoes, a change of clothes, bike troose, bike gloves and toletries. I used the spare clothes while my others were being washed otherwise most of my stuff stayed in the case. The biggest issue was handling my camera picture files. Back then memory cards were costly and small so I burnt the images to CDs. I used Bro's PC but could have done it in a web cafe.
Here's one of them:
Dont take more than the basic tool kit. Do take an AA (or whatever) membership.
Dont take clothes just in case you might need them Buy stuff over there if necessary.
Dont take spare oil (or any other fluid) its sold all over the world.
Dont take more than the bare necessaries in toiletries. People wash on the continent as well as on this side of the channel. Also take a small microfibre towel its all you actually need.
Dont take a laptop computer. Do take a good smartphone and lots of memory card for the camera. These goodies will cost but how much is a laptop worth when it gets broken by vibration or stolen?
Apply the same rules to everything you might need and the standard cases will do the job.
About 10 years ago I flew over to Italy to do some alpine riding with my brother. I took the clothes on my back and wore my bike boots and coat. I had a small hand luggage with shoes, a change of clothes, bike troose, bike gloves and toletries. I used the spare clothes while my others were being washed otherwise most of my stuff stayed in the case. The biggest issue was handling my camera picture files. Back then memory cards were costly and small so I burnt the images to CDs. I used Bro's PC but could have done it in a web cafe.
Here's one of them:
I think the weight limit has got more to do with the final drive bearing load than anything else.
The weight limit goes back to the late seventies. Even then bmw panniers had a 5kg limit.
When my mates and i used to go camping across europe you could barely lift a pannier. And that was with the silly side locks that held the pannier to the loop frames
B Murr
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Not a bad article on the subject.https://rideapart.com/articles/ask-a-motorcycle-thief
If it will fit, storing your chain in an under-rack bag (fits under the grab rail) is a good way of doing it. The weight is on the subframe so no problem at all, keeps your luggage free for luggagey stuff too 
Lentarn
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Might be better to change your insurance if you can. I travelled all over Europe and took a chain - what a pain and never needed
Bendy toy
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My Motrax has 10mm square section chain links and a shutter type padlock. It's no featherweight but its not silly heavy either. It will succumb to 4ft bolt croppers and a grinder will have it away in seconds but a monster heavy chain wont last a much longer and I avoid laying it on the floor. It stops idiots moving the bike and its not made from cheese like the latest from Lidl.
Lidl are selling cheese bikes?...
All interesting reading as off to Spain next week, taking disc lock and a 1.8m cable that should go through a few of the other bikes on the trip.
My main deterrent is the fact that my '05 is significantly less attractive than either of the TBs or the Rallye also on the trip.
All interesting reading as off to Spain next week, taking disc lock and a 1.8m cable that should go through a few of the other bikes on the trip.
My main deterrent is the fact that my '05 is significantly less attractive than either of the TBs or the Rallye also on the trip.
Bendy toy
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Lidl recently had some bike padlocks that looked good enough to keep your wheelie bin at home but not much else. 
To save weight going away I’ve binned the idea of the top box, 7kg empty, now have a waterproof roll bag 1kg so I can load 11kg of stuff in it, that’s her make up an hairproducts catered for. I’ve got the smallest pannier for all my gear. Ditch the top box.
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don’t bother with anything just park sensibly and you’ll be fine
If it does get nicked swear blind to your insurance that it was “chained and secured to an immovable object” at the time and the buggers even took the chain !
Oh, just noticed this is a resurrection from 2013, I guess the holiday’s over by now
Bendy toy
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Oh, just noticed this is a resurrection from 2013, I guess the holiday’s over by now
Back then battery angle grinders were pretty rare.
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