R 1150 GSA vs. R1200 GSA?

[Global Rider]

Well duuuuhhhhhhh, most people use their GPS for navigation purposes, not for measuring the distance between each fuel stop Are you saying that since you have bought the bike that you have used the GPS exclusively for maintaining your records of the bikes mileage and fuel consumption?

You realize you can have a map on the screen of the GPS and also have it record data in the background at the same time? In any case, I rarely use my GPS for navigation. Thousands of flight hours has taught me how to use maps which by the way, for planning purposes, a GPS cannot replace. I have other practical purposes for my GPS.

Bob, do you have the R1200 GS Adventure or the standard GS? Our discussion is comparing the fuel consumption of Adventures here; past and present. There is a big difference in the BMW published fuel consumption between the R1200 GS and the R1200 GS Adventure. Same engine, so it must be increased drag and a slight increase in rolling resistance due to those few extra pounds.

Got another 5.14 l/100 kms at a true 110 km/hr on yesterday's run which is close enough to BMW specifications. Also verified my odometer using the mileage markers on a straight section of what you call a motorway. Did you check tire pressures and tire wear when you verified your odometer.

 

[Global Rider]

This is what you said originally:-

"More advanced? How it is more advanced? Why is it the new GS Adv gets worse gas mileage? 6.1 vs 5.7 l/100 kms at 120 kph."

Remember that? Then when a few people with 1200's added their contributions to this thread.

Yes, I remember that. Do you remember that we are comparing Adventures and not the standard R1200 GS?

 

[Micky]

Does it really matter guys....


In the great eternal plan does it matter... they're for riding :helmet

I'm off to Germany... on the 650... and I've no idea what it does to the gallon/litre



www.adventure.gs

 

[jon b]

In any case, I rarely use my GPS for navigation. Thousands of flight hours has taught me how to use maps which by the way, for planning purposes, a GPS cannot replace.

All 9,000 flight hours have taught me to do is to leave the autopilot to follow the GPS sit back and read the paper with a nice cuppa

 

[Deleted account 190209001]

Seen this??

Well before anyone makes a decision....check out this thread on Advrider.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167287

 

[guido]

1200GSA...

I owned an 1150GSA. I went to France, Spain, Italy and Germany (and obviously UK!). Having been for 5 years with no real bike (I had a scooter just for commuting and prior to that a Honda Dominator) it was a real experience. I enjoyed it a lot.

I got a 1200GSA 2 weeks ago. What can I say? I think it is the best bike I have ever had. It is definately better than 1150GSA...

 

[Shep]

Playing around over the last couple of days, I tried to get the best MPG i could (according to the OBC) riding like a puff (no change there then ) I'm getting 62.7mpg over the last two days 50mile a day mixed B & A roads. Average speed 38mph

On a normal commute I average 47.8mpg and average 42mph

Thats a big difference in MPG for a little difference in average speed

Shep

 

[BBB61]

Bob, do you have the R1200 GS Adventure or the standard GS? Our discussion is comparing the fuel consumption of Adventures here; past and present. There is a big difference in the BMW published fuel consumption between the R1200 GS and the R1200 GS Adventure. Same engine, so it must be increased drag and a slight increase in rolling resistance due to those few extra pounds.

I have now fitted the 1200 adventure tank to my standard 1200GS. With the bigger tank, and according to your "wisdom" I should have seen an increase in the amount of fuel consumed by my 1200, but this has not been the case. The fuel consumption has remained the same as it was when I had the standard 1200GS tank fitted. There is no doubt at all that the 1150 Adventure is as fuel efficient as the 1200 Adventure. I would imagine the only people who think otherwise are those who have gone out and bought not 1, but 2 1150 Adventures within the space of a year.

 

[robbie c]

I owned an 1150GSA. I went to France, Spain, Italy and Germany (and obviously UK!). Having been for 5 years with no real bike (I had a scooter just for commuting and prior to that a Honda Dominator) it was a real experience. I enjoyed it a lot.

I got a 1200GSA 2 weeks ago. What can I say? I think it is the best bike I have ever had. It is definately better than 1150GSA...

well
I bought my gsa for 7.5k to buy a 12adv I would have had to borrow money
imho I would rather have a paid for 1150adv than a 12 with finance , so with that in mind I'vedone 17000 miles in 17 months (not one commuting) and I love it

it's all a matter of perception

happy to not be in debt

Rob

 

[Big Blue]

Greetings from Sunny South Africa. Perhaps a slightly different perspective - We ride our GS'S over extremely long distances and vastly differing weather and temperature variations. Distances between towns in rural areas are often more than 100 kms apart. Large Towns can be 500 kms apart with limited cellphone coverage. Getting your bike repaired in these small places is impossible - For these reasons You want a bike that does not break or leave you stranded - The 1200 is , at this time, in our conditions not the bike I want. I personally own an 1998 1100 GS ( 75 TH Anniversary model ) and 2003 1150 gs (not the adventure ). The 1150 is not twin spark or Servo assist and has the long first gear and overdrive 6th. Both bikes have proven to be first time starters and run perfectly between services - Both had their batteries replaced with Gel units when the time came. No major component failures of any kind.

The price difference between the two bikes = The 1100 was R60,000 ( South African Rand ) and the 1150 R90,000. The question is simple - was the 1150 worth the extra R30,0000 ? Is there that much more motorcycle for the price difference and the answer is no - there isn't. A 1200 Adventure in this country will now set you back close to R150,000 - Is it worth it ?

Is the 1200 that much better than the 1100 or 1150 and the answer is no. On a recent 3000 km trip we rode with two 1100, two 1150 and one 1200.
One day in particular we had a nasty head and sidewind and the 1200 rider was by his own admission the most uncomfortable rider as the 1200 seems very vulnerable to wind and quite sensitive on the road. In real life use, where we are riding at a constant 135 to 145 kmh on rural roads there is no appreciable advantage that the 1200 has over it's predecessors. Light weight and fuel economy mean nothing if you are stranded in the desert with technology that is untested.

The demand for Adventure motorcycles in this market is huge with BMW and KTM selling every new machine that they can build. The used market is also booming and 1150 Adventures are fast becoming collector's items. The fact is that all the Boxer GS'S tend to be an evolution of the preceding model rather than a revolution. I have made my selection but a well cared for 1100 will give you as much riding fun as any new 1200, be totally reliable and the savings can be substantial.

 

[BBB61]

The price difference between the two bikes = The 1100 was R60,000 ( South African Rand ) and the 1150 R90,000. The question is simple - was the 1150 worth the extra R30,0000 ? Is there that much more motorcycle for the price difference and the answer is no - there isn't. A 1200 Adventure in this country will now set you back close to R150,000 - Is it worth it ?

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It's interesting to see the price difference of the 1100 and the 1150 in South Africa. When the 1150 was introduced in the UK the price was actually cut (it was at a time when all the main importers were cutting their prices) by about £1000. The standard 1200GS now costs little more than what a new 1100GS cost back in 1996 (£9285 on the road, with ABS, for a 1100 in '96 and £9095 on the road for a R1200GS, without ABS and £9895 with).

 

[Den]

I like cheese and onion crisps better than smoky bacon.

 

[cookie]

I like cheese and onion crisps better than smoky bacon.

salt & vinegar is the daddy, but i've had a few break on me.

 

[Den]

I find golden wonder go quicker than walkers, but maybe the capacity of walkers is more.

 

[Dee Tee]

McCoys,Beef flavour

 

[Robbo1200ADV]

You've Obviously not tried CURRY Flavour!!

 

[Dee Tee]

No,and i doubt i ever will.














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