R wheel bearing movement 08 GSA

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Bit of advice from the more experienced please...

GSA went in for its forst MOT yesterday at North Oxford. Passed (despite Toad's silly pipe, sans baffle - :augie).
However, they noted on the VOSA sheet movement in the rear wheel bearing. Said it was small and not a problem but needed watching.
Now the bike's under used-approved warranty until March 2012, so I asked them to get Matt, the service manager to give me a call.
Should say from the off, I really like NOG and they've been great to me. This isn't about them.
Matt called today and said almost all GS 12s have some movement down there and most RTs. Said it wasn't an issue until it got to 3/4 of an inch of movement or so and I should just keep an eye on it.
Politely made clear they wouldn't change it under warranty as it stood, were I to ask.
Clearly my concern was that if it's going to get worse I want to get it sorted whilst the bike's in warranty, and that that note on the VOSA sheet will also put buyers off if and when the time comes.
So, we came to an agreement. They'll have another look at it two months before the warranty goes, and I asked them to drop me a letter confirming that, which Matt was happy to do.
Sound about right to you lot?
 
Should add that 10 mins after the conversation Matt's done exactly that in an email, I see, which is nice.
 
OscarIndia said:
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Matt called today and said almost all GS 12s have some movement down there and most RTs. Said it wasn't an issue until it got to 3/4 of an inch of movement or so and I should just keep an eye on it.
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I think your arse would notice 3/4 of an inch of movement in your rear wheel bearings.

I think that's a massive exaggeration of the BMW specs: It's 19mm and I suspect the decimal point may be missing in his manual. Is the spec 1.9mm. :nenau
 
DitchWater said:
I think your arse would notice 3/4 of an inch of movement in your rear wheel bearings.

I think that's a massive exaggeration of the BMW specs: It's 19mm and I suspect the decimal point may be missing in his manual. Is the spec 1.9mm. :nenau
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It's axle play, I should have made clear.
 
Do you mean AXIAL? Journo's Eh. :blast

It's still way too much: You'd find it hard to keep the bike straight with 19mm of wheel wobble. Ask another dealer or telephone Steptoe.
 
If its the rear bearing play you are checking, the max amount of play is 1mm checked at the wheel rim. With the bike on the centre stand, check for sideways play by using the 12 and 6 oclock positions. The temperature of the bearing must be less than 35 degrees c, so don't check straight after a ride.

The first time I checked mine was when I had 6K on the bike and I had noticable play although I could only guess at the amount. Both times the bike was serviced by a main dealer I had them check the FD which came back as fine and within tolerance. 6 months out of warranty I had them check it again because I felt the play had increased. This time there was a rumbling from within the FD in addition to the sideways play which was measured this time at 2mm. So, they replaced the crown wheel bearing at a cost of £260 which BMW kindly reimbursed me for a month later. This was at 18K miles.

Since 18K there is no play whatsoever and the bike is now at 24K.

NOG may be talking about something else other than the sideways bearing play, so check again exactly what they are referring to.
 
I have an 08 which I have had for about 10 weeks. Mileage now is 15k of which I have done about 3.5k since early May. The bike is still under warranty and I have only recently checked the rear wheel play. I have found that there is definitely play which you can feel but not really see, although I haven't actually measured properly. If the bike is still hot after a run no play can be detected at all. There is no roughness when the wheel is rotated. I would think it is probably within BMWs spec at the moment. My position is similar to that of the OP, so I will monitor and make sure it is checked properly before the warranty expires next year.
My K75 has 97k on it and has zero play in its FD. I personally would not consider any play acceptable if everything is assembled correctly but BMW clearly don't see it that way these days. I believe that there have been some cases where there is a poor fit between the wheel / disc carrier and the output splines so when have the wheel off next I will have a look. Otherwise what would be the cause, incorrect shimming?
Anyway, I shall continue to enjoy the bike and keep an eye on things.
 
Mine has zero play at 10k, I cannot see how BMW can have a tolerance well outside that where VOSA issue warnings.

Wheels should not wobble at all, BMW should just make them better in the first place and fix them as soon as they show signs of f***** up.

Dissapointed to hear they are rejecting warrranty claims on units that are obviously buggered, definately will not be renewing my warranty, will stick the £350 in the bank and save another £200 per service by using an indie, puts me £550 up in the first year, which as Sgt B. keeps pointing ut is more than enough for a rebuild if it does fail.
 
Well this thread with the rim play issue just made me go out to check my 2010 GSA with twelve K on the clock and has only last week returned from its 12K and anual combined service, by those Nice People at Southport Superbikes. :)
I can report that using the 12 and 6 o clock positions and also 9 and 3 o clock positions, there is no sign of play anywhere, it is solid.

From that if play was to occur going forward, I would take it as wear and it has developed/developing a fault :nenau

Best regards Stretch :)
 
Just checked mine. I assume if you hold it at the top and bottom of the wheel and try to move side-to-side that this is the correct way of measuring?
 
Like doctors, take it to another BMW dealer for a second opinion, they might think it's worth a warranty replacement:augie

That's what I would do:thumb
 
OscarIndia said:
Bit of advice from the more experienced please...

GSA went in for its forst MOT yesterday at North Oxford. Passed (despite Toad's silly pipe, sans baffle - :augie).
However, they noted on the VOSA sheet movement in the rear wheel bearing. Said it was small and not a problem but needed watching.
Now the bike's under used-approved warranty until March 2012, so I asked them to get Matt, the service manager to give me a call.
Should say from the off, I really like NOG and they've been great to me. This isn't about them.
Matt called today and said almost all GS 12s have some movement down there and most RTs. Said it wasn't an issue until it got to 3/4 of an inch of movement or so and I should just keep an eye on it.
Politely made clear they wouldn't change it under warranty as it stood, were I to ask.
Clearly my concern was that if it's going to get worse I want to get it sorted whilst the bike's in warranty, and that that note on the VOSA sheet will also put buyers off if and when the time comes.
So, we came to an agreement. They'll have another look at it two months before the warranty goes, and I asked them to drop me a letter confirming that, which Matt was happy to do.
Sound about right to you lot?
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Might be worth asking GunZbomb thoughts..:augie
 
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