Rear seat top box mounting

Exactly the answer i was hoping for...i'm a serial commuter, and having tried the back pack, the tankbag and the tailpack i'm hoping this'll be the solution...my only drawback is an aesthetic one in that i like having the rear rack on the bike, i think it finishes the bike nicely, and putting the top box there means i have to remove it...sad really :rolleyes:

Is the top box 'carryable' as a case? (i.e. can i unhook it and carry it by a handle?)
 
Oh and have you tested the top box in this configuration at ton plus speeds (on private roads of course ;))
 
Russ said:
Is the top box 'carryable' as a case? (i.e. can i unhook it and carry it by a handle?)

If you are talking about BMW OE, yes

Omer.
 
Russ I think that the bike looks better with the topbox on the pillion seat rather than on a huge cantelever on the back of the bike, but I suppose its a matter of opinion.

Yes - I've tested the configuration at speed (on a private road :D) and its good for all speeds IMHO. I noticed some high speed weave induced by the box in the 'high' position.

The topbox mounting plate is also readily removable in the pillion configuration, just use the key to open the pillion seat, turn the two plastic levers and it comes away, leaving a large flat area to tie things down.

Yes - you can carry the case using the handle and in 'slim mode' it looks like a normal case and is quite easy to carry. I tend to leave it on the bike whilst at work and just put a rucksack in it to carry to and from my desk. Also stops things rattling about in the box.
 
Thank you gents...

GSMonkey - was the high speed weave present with the top box in the pillion position, or just when it was mounted on the rear (spoiler) arm thingumy!

Now to find £300 odd quid...this GS'ing ain't cheap :rolleyes:

;)
 
Only seem to get the weave when mounted on the rear spoiler arm thingy. Its much more stable on the pillion mount for sure.
 
Sorry chaps...perhaps I've missed this somewhere...
Can you take the topbox plate from the rack and attach it to the pannier seat position, or do you have to buy another (different) plate from BMW?
 
Nye said:
Sorry chaps...perhaps I've missed this somewhere...
Can you take the topbox plate from the rack and attach it to the pannier seat position, or do you have to buy another (different) plate from BMW?

You take the same topbox plate and add on the extra bits shown in the first photo in the series above that GSMonkey posted. The extra bits come as an additional kit from your BMW dealer.
 
Can I just interject with the obligatory: "Plywood on a 10k bike!?1 OMG!!

For those not in the know - this is IRONY! Mouse got a fair bit of stick for some mods he made a while back.

A quick question, how much for a top box, plate and fitting kit?

Unless anyone's upgrading and wants to sell a set?

Wraithwrider
 
Another mounting. Did this on my first 1150. Pidcocks just happened to have a torn seat in the skip. Borrowed it :rolleyes: and cut the centre foam out and bolted my Givi box directly to it. worked a treat and with a bit of messing about I finally got it to the ideal position to provide a backrest. Left the rack free for carry ing the tent. Cost Nothing.
 

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Nuva shot, note how i got the tank cover and bag to match the tent bag. Clever eh.
 

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After all the discussions and ideas generated by my original post, I decided to go ahead and make an adaptor plate for my BMW top box, I wanted one which wouldn’t result in the top box overhanging the rear light, but still provide me with a few inches of ‘shuffling’ room for my legs and bum on a long journey, which the standard BMW fitment doesn’t do. I’ve attached a few photos to illustrate, for anyone interested.

The adaptor plate (AP) was made using a 300mm square sheet of 6mm thick aluminium. It was profiled to be roughly the same shape as the plastic mounting plate for the top box, but about 3mm larger all round, purely for aesthetics.

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Six holes were drilled through the AP to line up with the fixings through the plastic top cover under the rear seat. These were made to suit M5 screws and were countersunk on the top face.

Spacers were made to sit under the AP at these six points, the centre two being slightly shorter than the outside four to take into account the slight curvature of the plastic top cover. These spacers were then bonded onto the underside of the AP with Araldite, just to ease assembly really.

Angle brackets were made to screw onto the underside of the AP and line up with the two side fixings vacated by the rear grab rail/rack. These are the most important fixings, as they attach directly onto the frame. Although the brackets are screwed to the underside of the AP, I bonded them with Araldite, which made the nuts captive.

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The top box mounting plate was placed in position on the AP and, using the existing tubular spacers as guides, drilled through to give the position for the fixings. It is important to note that the front four drillings made using the spacers as a guide were at a slight angle, the two rear holes being normal to the AP. These holes were opened out to enable M6 ‘Big-Head’ bonding fasteners, type F2/ST38, to be pressed in from the rear and bonded onto the underside of the AP using Araldite. On the four angled fixings, the protruding part of the fastener was ground off flush with the top surface of the AP.

The AP was cleaned up and sprayed silver, Halford’s ‘Standard Silver’ being an extremely good match for the GS's plastic panels It was screwed on using the six fixings for the plastic top cover under the rear seat and the two fixings through the angle bracket into the frame.

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The top box mounting plate was screwed directly to the AP, with a couple of black spacers made for the two rear fixings, as they don’t sit right down onto the AP, as do the front four fixings.

As you can see in the remaining photos, the top box is now 100mm lower and 300mm further forward than the original rear mounting position. I’m sure that the handling will be an improvement, it just remains now to give it a good road test over all terrains to see if it stays put!

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I’ll let you know.
 
Well done, Ballistic. That certainly looks more professional than my plywood adapter plate. Are you going to start producing those?

I'm still very happy with mine. But if I was starting over again there are a few things I would change. I would only use the two oblong cutouts in the seat base that BMW use for their forward-mount fitting. the rear centre mount used for the carrier, and possibly the two side mount points that you have used. This would leave the whole assembly removable without first having to remove the plastic topbox mounting plate from the adapter plate.
 
Hi all,
Prom the point of touring with lots of gear,is it possible to keep the original rack fitted(possibly with anothe top box)and still have the seat position BMW box??

Lyndon
 
I've done several hundred miles now with the top box attached, no problems so far. It certainly feels better than having the box overhanging the rear end, and there is enough room to have a stretch, and even lean back on if needed.
I shall be doing a 6000 mile trip around eastern Europe later in the year... that'll test the bugger!
 
snave1 said:
Hi all,
Prom the point of touring with lots of gear,is it possible to keep the original rack fitted(possibly with anothe top box)and still have the seat position BMW box??

Lyndon

No, the carrier needs to be removed to fit the BMW box in the rear seat location. You could possibly make your own mounting plate that would allow two boxes to be mounted, back to back.

If I needed that much space I would have the top box on the rack and a soft bag in the rear seat position. Several bags are available that fit on the pillion seat.
 


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