Rear Tyre change

[Valley Boy]

Hi
I recently changed both my tyres on my GS 1200 TB for standard Tourance ones for a trip to Spain / Portugal. However i am not too happy with the rear tyre grip in wet conditions. Would it be ok to replace just the rear for a Tourance NEXT ?

Thanks

 

[Yellow Peril]

The normal Torrance normally is shit hot in the rain, but why bother not going to rain in Spain unless you are unlucky

 

[Victor c]

Std Tourance front and rear on my 2010 TC. No wet grip issues for me.

 

[Dellis]

I've done over 100,000 miles on standard Tourances and they are great in the wet with loads of grip. The only issue I had with Tourances was that on one of the bikes I've used them on, a 2009 GSA, they weren't very stable for the first 2 - 300 miles, they would weave if you crossed a white line or clipped a cat's eye but once they'd been run for a couple of hundred miles they settled down.

Dave

 

[bikemad]

Do some miles all tyres need a good days riding to bed them in find a nice route with plenty of twisties also check pressures are right with a decent gauge I never trust garage ones or cheap footpumps even my two big cycle upright ones are not accurate.

 

[SteveM]

The normal Torrance normally is shit hot in the rain, but why bother not going to rain in Spain unless you are unlucky

Depends where you go, everyone knows that 'the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain'.

 

[Valley Boy]

Thanks for the replies guys!------------ I should have made it a bit clearer, i have come back from the trip (1400 miles) and had a 4 occassions when the rear tyre slid out a bit. This was going over Picos mountains in damp road conditions, then a few days later on a hot day on perfectly dry road. So, they have covered 1400 miles now, tyre pressure 2.7bar.

I am off too Scotland for a weeks trip shortly with missus this time , i will have a few good ride outs , see if they settle in.

Could i fit a different tyre to the back if i am still not confident ?

Cheers

 

[Pukmeister]

There could have been something else on the road such as diesel, oily tar residue from the Tarmac, fine dust/sand.

My previous GS had Tourances and I had a few moments in Australia and one crash in the wet. This was down to rain after a long hot spell where the type of Tarmac used over there leeches out oil in the 45C heat then goes slick in the first rains.

A mate toured the Rhonda region in Spain and reckoned the dry corners with lethal due to a talc-like layer of fine dust on the roads.

I've pushed Tourances as hard as I can in both wet and dry and they usually give plenty of warning without completely letting go and sliding (unless on gravel).

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Hi
I recently changed both my tyres on my GS 1200 TB for standard Tourance ones for a trip to Spain / Portugal. However i am not too happy with the rear tyre grip in wet conditions. Would it be ok to replace just the rear for a Tourance NEXT ?

Thanks

Have a look at them, were they made in china on the sidewall ?

 

[Valley Boy]

Have a look at them, were they made in china on the sidewall ?

Yes, it says made in China!------------------does that make a difference?

 

[stonehenge]

Not really. My last rear Tourance was made in China and felt and rode fine. It seemed to wear out quicker but was fine on the road wet or dry.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Yes, it says made in China!------------------does that make a difference?

I reckon they are different & maybe why grip has been different

Chinese QC may be variable for sure

 

[Victor c]

My last bike (Triumph Sprint 1050) developed what appeared to be the rear tyre losing grip in corners. It was the rebound in the rear shock. Firming up a quarter of a turn on the adjuster screw cured it.

 

[Victor c]

I reckon they are different & maybe why grip has been different

Chinese QC may be variable for sure

Just checked mine. Made in Germany.

 

[Fluffy Bridges]

I've done over 100,000 miles on standard Tourances and they are great in the wet with loads of grip. The only issue I had with Tourances was that on one of the bikes I've used them on, a 2009 GSA, they weren't very stable for the first 2 - 300 miles, they would weave if you crossed a white line or clipped a cat's eye but once they'd been run for a couple of hundred miles they settled down.

Dave

+1.

I've done 22000 miles on my GSA with "normal" Tourances including two w/ends at the 'Ring where is was pushed hard in mixed conditions and would echo all of the above.
In fact, if I knew the compound was available with a sports tread I'd put them on my sports bike - that's not a fanciful remark either.
However, if you feel they don't give you what you want, change them. A lack of confidence in the ability of your tyres will only compromise your riding.
Interestingly, I don't get on with the newer Tourances and would rather not ride on them giver a choice.
The only way you will find if the Next will live with the Original front is to try it, unfortunately, and see how you get on. You will have to do several hundred miles on the combination before the rear is sufficiently bedded in to know if it works. I'd be interested in what you find.
Sometimes, the devil you know, etc...

Fluff

 

[Yellow Peril]

Depends where you go, everyone knows that 'the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain'.

LOL the last I was there it was 35+ on the plains and no rain

 

[Mr K]

European mountain roads tend to be made of very hard materials to resist the extreme weather conditions and they can become polished and slippery after light rain or dew fall.

 

[Greenman14]

To reply to your original question, I used to run Bridgestone sports tyre on the front and sports touring on the rear of my Firestorm. Quite a few did this without a problem. I wouldn't fit a grippy Next rear with a Tourance front, might do it the other way around though. Maybe I'm just reacting to losing the front and sliding down the road 3 weeks ago.

 

[Deleted account 190920001]

I reckon they are different & maybe why grip has been different

Chinese QC may be variable for sure

Chinese quality control might be variable but Metzler factory quality control won't be no matter what country it's based in.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Chinese quality control might be variable but Metzler factory quality control won't be no matter what country it's based in.

What about when the resident German QC inspector has gone for his break, they'll find any excuse to trim the costs