Remap by Hilltop Motorcycles

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A K100 was raced at the IOM?? So what, we used to have a production racing class. Also you are comparing a 4 cylinder turbo charged engine with a normally aspirated twin.

Read a lot of the posts - quite a few people who have had it done also question the 25% or whatever power gains. One thing that I find odd is the some make that power comment. Well just about every bloody bike on here is making those gains according to everyone posting their figures, and not 5%.

If you think your bike is 24% up in bhp from standard. Then I'm very happy for you. Crazy that BMW can increase the power by only 13 odd percent and a few owners of the older models with a remap have a quicker but heavier LC - Enjoy your bike.

I'm LOVING it!!!
 
So Wilsdorf - are you sending back your ECU to be put back to standard and getting your refund :comfort
 
So you buy something, don't like it, slag off the supplier then turn down a full refund including P&P and you want people to take your opinion seriously?

Yawn

Have you, or even Geoff read my posts? Where have I slagged them off? You will note my posts are generally restricted to the stated power output and comparative performance that those figures SHOULD provide.

I will refrain from why I won't be sending back my ECU, as that may be considered slagging off by someone like you :jager
 
I don't know if Geoff has read your posts; I only met him once and wouldn't presume to speak for him, but I think calling into question the accuracy of his dyno is kinda slagging off, at least by inference. You ARE telling us you're not sending back your ECU but not WHY. There is only one inference people will make; you like it. And just exactly WHAT kind of someone am I?
 
I don't know if Geoff has read your posts; I only met him once and wouldn't presume to speak for him, but I think calling into question the accuracy of his dyno is kinda slagging off, at least by inference. You ARE telling us you're not sending back your ECU but not WHY. There is only one inference people will make; you like it. And just exactly WHAT kind of someone am I?

If you think I like it, feel free to think that. How I feel about it, is explained in my earlier posts. Generically, remaps provide benefits. I have in fact noted this numerous times, and also conceded that these may even be better than a power commander.

& yes I am calling into question the accuracy of the dyno figures displayed on the forum, as is my prerogative.

What type of person are you? Someone who on one hand states they do not presume to speak for one person, and then on the other do so for another? I'd say by the evidence of your own posts, you were someone who jumps to conclusions.

People will make their own decisions and spend their own money. I am simply all for open discussion and transparency. Anything other than this stance is alien to me.
 
If you think I like it, feel free to think that. How I feel about it, is explained in my earlier posts. Generically, remaps provide benefits. I have in fact noted this numerous times, and also conceded that these may even be better than a power commander.

& yes I am calling into question the accuracy of the dyno figures displayed on the forum, as is my prerogative.

What type of person are you? Someone who on one hand states they do not presume to speak for one person, and then on the other do so for another? I'd say by the evidence of your own posts, you were someone who jumps to conclusions.

People will make their own decisions and spend their own money. I am simply all for open discussion and transparency. Anything other than this stance is alien to me.

If you don't like it, why keep it? For me a £350 remap Vs a PCV at about £500 plus dyno time was a no brainer; I don't need a selection of maps, I wanted one that worked for all of my riding; I don't track-day this bike so the functionality of a PCV was not needed. I am satisfied that I got excellent value for money from Hilltop as a customer. Calling out someone on accuracy is, as you say, your prerogative; so you have information / figures to back this claim up I presume? Say, your own independent dyno results of a third party remap? And could you please let me know when I have presumed to speak for another in my posts? I am quite willing to clarify if I have caused confusion. I agree people will make their own decisions, and I am also for open discussion and transparency. For someone to whom this stance is alien why not publish YOUR independent dyno results on your remapped machine against the results from the supplier? Then we would see you talking from a Prima facie position of strength rather than someone who has a very strong opinion - to which you are entitled - but no evidence to support it. I have evidence of the power / torque curves of my machine. Can you ACTUALLY disprove them?
 
If you don't like it, why keep it? For me a £350 remap Vs a PCV at about £500 plus dyno time was a no brainer;

Bloody hell! That's a bit expensive for a PCV isn't it? I'm looking at one (new) just now - for £240 delivered.

I reckon that a PowerCommander is much the same cost as a remap, once they are both dyno'd

Al
 
Bloody hell! That's a bit expensive for a PCV isn't it? I'm looking at one (new) just now - for £240 delivered.

I reckon that a PowerCommander is much the same cost as a remap, once they are both dyno'd

Al

That was the guideline quote I got, but I know I could have shopped around, but I didn't want too much extra stuff bolted to the bike; the single remap suited my needs but I fully understand others may want to go the PCV route. I live in SE England and dyno time is expensive here :(
 
Bloody hell! That's a bit expensive for a PCV isn't it? I'm looking at one (new) just now - for £240 delivered.

I'm guessing that's without a pair of the Autotune wideband lambda sensors and associated kit....? :nenau
 
If you don't like it, why keep it? For me a £350 remap Vs a PCV at about £500 plus dyno time was a no brainer; I don't need a selection of maps, I wanted one that worked for all of my riding; I don't track-day this bike so the functionality of a PCV was not needed. I am satisfied that I got excellent value for money from Hilltop as a customer. Calling out someone on accuracy is, as you say, your prerogative; so you have information / figures to back this claim up I presume? Say, your own independent dyno results of a third party remap? And could you please let me know when I have presumed to speak for another in my posts? I am quite willing to clarify if I have caused confusion. I agree people will make their own decisions, and I am also for open discussion and transparency. For someone to whom this stance is alien why not publish YOUR independent dyno results on your remapped machine against the results from the supplier? Then we would see you talking from a Prima facie position of strength rather than someone who has a very strong opinion - to which you are entitled - but no evidence to support it. I have evidence of the power / torque curves of my machine. Can you ACTUALLY disprove them?

You seem to misunderstand the position of someone calling something into question. The case is that they,( i.e. me) are questioning it - I'm not disproving it, or supplying you with evidence - otherwise I'd be a damn site more vocal on the matter.

What I can categorical tell you is that - a remapped bike, with around 30% more bhp and 25% more torque was no quicker than a completely standard bike - in a straight line - now YOU prove to me how that is possible in the physical world that we call reality!
 
You seem to misunderstand the position of someone calling something into question. The case is that they,( i.e. me) are questioning it - I'm not disproving it, or supplying you with evidence - otherwise I'd be a damn site more vocal on the matter.

What I can categorical tell you is that - a remapped bike, with around 30% more bhp and 25% more torque was no quicker than a completely standard bike - in a straight line - now YOU prove to me how that is possible in the physical world that we call reality!

Well, if I want to disprove something, I will provide evidence. You seem to be of the opinion that the remap gave no performance improvement. I'm sure that when it was compared with the standard machine it was the same rider on both machines in the same conditions. That being me, and living in the homeland of road racing as you do, I would be off pronto to my nearest dyno and getting figures. Where are they and, as I said earlier, which of my posts claimed to be speaking for another? Stop rabble rousing and put up some figures / evidence.
 
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