Remote antenna PMR

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Has anyone fitted a remote antenna to a PMR radio, if so how much did the range go up by?

Is it a worthwhile mod?

Has anyone any photos that they would share with me as to a solution for fitting it.

Many thanks

Steve
 
I think there are legal restrictions in th UK regarding remote aerials on PMR's
 
If you get done with a PMR446 radio fitted with an external aerial, they can confiscate the radio and whatever it is attached to.... i.e. your bike.

You could get a 3107 or other higher powered radio, but these are also illegal and can be confiscated. However, as they're not directly attached to the bike, getting caught is significantly cheaper.

If you want a legal, long range radio, get a CB. They cost much less than good quality PMR446, are of equivilent or better design, have a much higher power output, many more chanels to chose from, and there are all sorts of comercially available aerials & mounts. And for about 15 quid a year for a license, it's all legal!
 
Wizard said:
If you want a legal, long range radio, get a CB. They cost much less than good quality PMR446, are of equivilent or better design, have a much higher power output, many more chanels to chose from, and there are all sorts of comercially available aerials & mounts. And for about 15 quid a year for a license, it's all legal!

Or you could go for the Amateur Radio (Ham) licence, 400w legal output, an infinite number of channels from 1.8Mhz to well over 24Ghz and on some Amateur bands you could run 1Kw output! Talk to someone anywhere in the world for the sum of £14 per year. :D
 
Blue Sweeper said:
Or you could go for the Amateur Radio (Ham) licence, 400w legal output, an infinite number of channels from 1.8Mhz to well over 24Ghz and on some Amateur bands you could run 1Kw output! Talk to someone anywhere in the world for the sum of £14 per year. :D

And you don't even have to go to college and learn about radio waves, electronics etc. like I did many moons ago, you can do a weekend course on how to connect a lightbulb to a battery :spitfire :spitfire :spitfire

If you did have an Amateur License, you could always mistakenly use your completely legal 70cm radio on teh PMR446 frequencies at 400w. Great communications, and a nice wee tan too!
 
Wizard said:
If you want a legal, long range radio, get a CB. They cost much less than good quality PMR446, are of equivilent or better design, have a much higher power output, many more chanels to chose from, and there are all sorts of comercially available aerials & mounts. And for about 15 quid a year for a license, it's all legal!

When I saw this it seemed to be an option for me to get both kids wired up on bikes and SWMBO in her car for some weekends up on the Larzac plateau.
Looking for equipment proved disappointing though, portable CBs seem more expensive than PMRs. Do you have more info Wizard?
 
Right, well, in the UK.......

CB Radio is pretty much free access, but you need to be (might be slightly out of date here) 14 years old and pay 15quid for a license. You can buy a new CB for about £55, the aerial and mount for fitting to a GS can be anything from £25 to £150, depending on how you want to go about it. Now, since your average CB radio doesn't have VOX (which is virtually useless over 50mph anyway), you'll also need a switch, earpiece, mic etc. But since you'll need at least earpiece & mic with a PMR446 setup, and probably a switch, you can pretty much take that out of the equation as regards cost.

So, you've just spent about £120 on a good quality PMR446 handheld that will get you about 1/2 mile on a good day. Then someone comes along and tells you they spent the same on their CB setup (plus £15 for a license), and they get 20 miles on a bad day. Kinda puts it all in perspective. The only real disadvantage is the loation of the radio. PMR446 rigs are very small, and are handy to stow. Even handheld CB's are a fair bit bigger, and what you get for about £55 is about 6x4x1 inches. Not a problem if you have panniers, you just mount it under the lid. Otherwise it's quite easy to knock something up with ammo boxes, which can also double as lunch boxes etc. (I intend at some point to make a refridgerated ammo or topbox to keep me sarnies cool :thumb )

Now, all this does need to be offset against the fact that you can buy a basic pair of PMR446 radios for about £20, and a couple of sets of cells and a charger for another £20. I personally think that anyone who's bought a GS rather than a Tiger/Africa Twin/V-Strom should give plenty of thought about spending GS money and skimping on something that, quite frankly, can save your life. Especially since the greater range of the CB means you're much more likely to get someone at the other end if things do go wrong. And it's also quite cool chatting to some bloke from Poland when the sunspots are doing funny things to the atmosphere :D

The long and the short of it is that CB Radio is designed specifically as a mobile, large area, medium distance method of communication. PMR446 is designed specifically for portable short range communication within a limited area, and is almost completely unsuited to use on bikes. Manufacturers and suppliers have taken advantage of the traditional view of CB radio (10-4 good buddy), and in doing so have, IMHO, taken complete advantage of their customers by indroducing new, more expensive, and virtually pointless products. You can't even say they exploited a niche in the market: rather, they completely disregarded the fact the niche has been filled 20 years ago and (reoccuring theme here) took complete advantage of the customers lack of understanding in what is, to be honest, quite a technical field. :spitfire

If anyone genuinely wants more info on radios, aerials, etc., I'll do up a "How to"
 
Wizard said:
If anyone genuinely wants more info on radios, aerials, etc., I'll do up a "How to"

Please do! Is it possible to wire portable CBs into a headset and to fit a PTT switch? How about connection through Autocom/Starcom/Intaride?
I couldn't find any portable CBs at £55, where does one buy them?
 
Shenzi,

there are two main kinds of radio that apply to bikers. Handheld (CBs from about £100) and mobile (CBs from about £55). The CB radio I describe as 6x4x1 inches is a mobile radio, and needs to be hard wired into the bike (hence the comments about ammo boxes etc.).

There should be no significant difference between a mobile setup (radio + aerial & mount) and a handheld radio, both coming in at around £120 all in (and both significantly cheaper than a "quality" PMR446). As for Autocom etc, it is simply a matter of making the correct wiring looms. I frequently shudder when I see people posting about Autocom adaptor cables they've bought for £15, since most would probably cost about £2 to make up, even at Maplin prices. Mind you, I shudder at the thought of having radio, MP3, mobile phone and whatever else distracting me while on the bike, so I've never used an Autocom myself.
 


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