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can someone give me some advice
My bike had a replacement engine less than 2k before i bought it , The dealer never informed me and i have only now found out as its int he back of the service book , The engine number no longer matches the one on the V5 , Should i be worried and should i of been told before i purchased by the dealer ?
 
There isn't any problem with this IMO. so you got a bike with a 2k old engine probably because the old one had corroded. Sounds like a deal to me. It's documented so it's not like the police are after you for a stolen engine!
 
Im not saying there is a problem with the engine , the things thats cheesed me off is when i parted with my 10k i wasn't informed of the engine swap and if i had been i might of decided not to buy the bike and gone for one that had no problems , Also they didn't even go to the trouble of swapping the v5 over with new engine number and if it was to get stolen and the insurance company noticed that it could also cause problems
 
Well take it back. You asked opinion on if it was a problem and I said it was a benefit. You obviously seem to think otherwise so take it back and shout Sale of goods act and none disclosure at them.
 
You could always update your V5 by sending it to DVLA. Problem solved.


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The fact that BMW havnt filled in the V5 and not told me gives me cause to lose trust in the dealer and the bike , What else has been done and not mentioned , seems shoddy SERVICE from BMW
 
Its your responsibility to check what your buying is as described

caveat emptor

If you specifically asked the dealer if the bike had had a replacment engine and he said "no", then it is an issue, as the goods are not as described

If however, and i suspect this is the right answer, you didnt ask?! Caveat emptor
 
that night be the legal term but its still untrustworthy when they knew , changing the engine is a big thing , we aint taking about a piece of plastic or a switch
 
Why not go back to the dealer and have the discussion with them ? They may well have a simple explanation or make an offer to set your mind at ease?
 
that night be the legal term but its still untrustworthy when they knew , changing the engine is a big thing , we aint taking about a piece of plastic or a switch

Sorry to rain on your parade, but thats where you stand in law,

Yes you might think your way, but thats your opinion nothing else.



Best advice i can offer .. close the service book, declare the new engine number to DVLA.

Open the door , put on your helmet and go out and enjoy your bike...
 
I can understand your frustration but take it back to the dealer and get them to sort out the paperwork plus they should have really told you out of courtesy I think. Its not big deal but annoying for sure. Easily sorted though and Im sure they will sort it out.
 
Im not saying there is a problem with the engine , the things thats cheesed me off is when i parted with my 10k i wasn't informed of the engine swap and if i had been i might of decided not to buy the bike and gone for one that had no problems , Also they didn't even go to the trouble of swapping the v5 over with new engine number and if it was to get stolen and the insurance company noticed that it could also cause problems

I part exchanged my bike back in without notifying the DVLA of the engine change so it's probably my fault

Sorry
 
can someone give me some advice
My bike had a replacement engine less than 2k before i bought it , The dealer never informed me and i have only now found out as its int he back of the service book , The engine number no longer matches the one on the V5 , Should i be worried and should i of been told before i purchased by the dealer ?

In my opinion, it's a paperwork issue.

But there are a couple of potential 'get out clauses'

A) If you purchased the motorcycle remotely over the telephone or online, and never visited the premises to view the motorcycle, you are covered under the Consumer Contracts Regulations 2014 (the old Distance Selling Regulations) and can reject the deal up to 7 days after you received the goods (or until they notify you of the cancellation procedure, this can extend your rejection by some time). Would this apply?

B) If you purchased the motorcycle on finance, then it might be worth speaking with the finance company to see if this situation would effect their 'valuation' of their asset. They might offer legal support to fight a reduction in price or refund, but that is a long shot.

C) If you purchased the motorcycle on Credit Card (any amount above £100) you could contact them under Section 75 and argue your case, see if they could pressure Dealer for a refund, but again that's a long shot.

BUT, having said all that if the paperwork had been completed on your V5 and you had never known about the engine change, would you still be happy with the motorcycle?

Is the engine and bike performing as you would expect for the money you paid?

If it is, then it's just your head playing mind games with you.

If you genuinely wouldn't have purchased the bike if you'd known about the engine change, then that's going to be a battle, especially if there is nothing wrong with the bike. They've not supplied you with a faulty machine. It's legal to replace faulty parts, and the argument could be if it mattered so much to you (you should have checked everything was in order before sale to 'your' standard).

It would bother me also, up until I realised nothing can really be done. Just get the paperwork changed, put it behind you and enjoy your bike.

Just not a nice surprise is it. :confused::(

But with the BMW R1200GS and Adventure, Engine changes happen a lot with people having warranty claims over nothing more sinister than paint flaking! So I personally wouldn't worry to much in this instance.
 
The PO should have informed DVLA of the engine change and got a replacement V5. The dealer who changed the engine wouldn't have had the V5. The dealer who changed my engine didn't have the V5. I sent it to DVLA for update.

Whats the big deal with a changed engine? I would regard it as a positive rather than a negative. It's not my old bike, is it? No, cant be, the V5 would be correct. ��
 
I'd be happy having found one with a new engine fitted; they'd have a new clutch in, and possibly the later gearbox etc.

They only sort the casings now, which to me lessens it's appeal (as opposed to having one with complete engine)
 
I'd be happy having found one with a new engine fitted; they'd have a new clutch in, and possibly the later gearbox etc.

They only sort the casings now, which to me lessens it's appeal (as opposed to having one with complete engine)

I agree totally. The OP should see the positives and, if it is an issue (which it seems it is), present the dealer with a bill for the costs associated with updating the V5.

But why complain about having a newer engine/gearbox/clutch? That really baffles me, as he says he would rather have had an engine with higher miles on it!
 
I agree totally. The OP should see the positives and, if it is an issue (which it seems it is), present the dealer with a bill for the costs associated with updating the V5.

But why complain about having a newer engine/gearbox/clutch? That really baffles me, as he says he would rather have had an engine with higher miles on it!

And one that was corroded :blast
 
Would the dealer have known the engine was replaced if for example it was a trade in or did they actually do the work?
On the bright side, the engine warranty should now be longer than the rest of the bike. If you have no engine issues, ride and enjoy.
You could ask the dealer to change the V5 for you to save a stamp.
 
It will be interesting come MOT time for all these bikes that have had an engine change - correct me if I am wrong but I believe that an MOT cannot be issued for a bike where the engine and frame numbers do not match the details on the V5 :confused:

Therefore best to make sure the V5 has been updated ;)

As to the OP - yes a bit annoying that the dealer did not mention it - go back and see if you can get a free service or something of that ilk to compensate.

Otherwise I would not worry about it :)
 
It will be interesting come MOT time for all these bikes that have had an engine change - correct me if I am wrong but I believe that an MOT cannot be issued for a bike where the engine and frame numbers do not match the details on the V5 :confused:

Therefore best to make sure the V5 has been updated ;)

As to the OP - yes a bit annoying that the dealer did not mention it - go back and see if you can get a free service or something of that ilk to compensate.

Otherwise I would not worry about it :)

I've never had an MOT where I have had to show the V5 !
 


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