Replacing a clutch

[Spike]

Ok clutch is slipping so needs replacing.

Just phoned local dealer for a price and nearly fell off my seat, for the whole kit its just over £400.
Now my question is do I need/have to buy the whole lot, preasure plate clutch plate clutch housing rods spacers etc etc???

I was thinking along the lines of car clutches which this is similar that if the plates gone sometimes you donot need to replace the preasure plate.

also I asked this same question in my other thread about it slipping, when stripping the bike down is there any special tools that I need, I have a very good tool kit as i do most repairs, rebuilds myself but specialist bmw tools I do not have.

Thanks

spike

 

[Robbo1200ADV]

Ok clutch is slipping so needs replacing.

Just phoned local dealer for a price and nearly fell off my seat, for the whole kit its just over £400.
Now my question is do I need/have to buy the whole lot, preasure plate clutch plate clutch housing rods spacers etc etc???

I was thinking along the lines of car clutches which this is similar that if the plates gone sometimes you donot need to replace the preasure plate.

also I asked this same question in my other thread about it slipping, when stripping the bike down is there any special tools that I need, I have a very good tool kit as i do most repairs, rebuilds myself but specialist bmw tools I do not have.

Thanks

spike

Replace all not just one plate.There is a Great thread on here on how to do it ,your bike will look like its exploded

 

[Pukmeister]

If you've done a car clutch you can do a GS clutch. There's not much difference in the method however you do end up with the front end of the bike from the engine forwards on blocks, with the rear of the bike totally stripped out to expose the clutch.

Biggest drama is being careful with the wiring loom as you move it out of the way.

Be sure to label everything/take digital photos during disassembly. I would also recommend getting a copy of the REPROM on disk to see all factory tools and procedures.

(I take it removing some excess fluid didn't fix it then ?)

 

[Spike]

If you've done a car clutch you can do a GS clutch. There's not much difference in the method however you do end up with the front end of the bike from the engine forwards on blocks, with the rear of the bike totally stripped out to expose the clutch.

Biggest drama is being careful with the wiring loom as you move it out of the way.

Be sure to label everything/take digital photos during disassembly. I would also recommend getting a copy of the REPROM on disk to see all factory tools and procedures.

(I take it removing some excess fluid didn't fix it then ?)

I thought it had fixed/cured the problem but it had not.

What i will do is start to have a look at things like removing the starter first, and investigating before I strip completely.
The clutch kit will cost alot of money so it like you say might be something simple, but if oil has gotten in there then the clutch will be knackered anyway wont it??

Ah well I will get the disc and a haynes maual(already on order) and make a start.

Thanks

spike

 

[Pukmeister]

Sent you a PM Spike. Check your inbox.

 

[jogo]

This might be interest for you:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655998

 

[Spike]

wow that looks daunting splitting the bike like that.
Looks like the mrs will be getting her hand dirty too then lol. Well after all if she wants to come along on some trips she better be prepared.

Does the bike NEED to be split like that???? or is that just a time saving excersize so not to strip the whole thing apart??

Spike

 

[Steptoe]

Does the bike NEED to be split like that???? or is that just a time saving excersize so not to strip the whole thing apart??

Spike

There is no time saving exercise for doing a clutch, only the one way.

One of the clutch components also acts as the starter ring gear/flywheel.

Try james sherlock for a complete clutch kit . That'll save you some money.

 

[Spike]

The way that guy does it in the link looks a little unstable to me, can you not just strip the whole back end off i.e take away the wheel the final drive etc etcbut leave the frame in place??
Or was I lookijng at a link on here for the 1150 that was done that way???

spike

 

[Steptoe]

The way that guy does it in the link looks a little unstable to me, can you not just strip the whole back end off i.e take away the wheel the final drive etc etcbut leave the frame in place??
Or was I lookijng at a link on here for the 1150 that was done that way???

spike

I don't want to repeat what i've already posted.

 

[R17GSR]

No, the link was a 1200 and yes that's the way to do a clutch.
That's why you replace the lot.

 

[Spike]

no that fine guys.
Only reason I asked was I found a good thread on here about doing a clutvh but it must have been the 1150 as the bike was not split in two.

It is not a problem, I have the room and the know how once i get going.

Thanks steptoe I have read alot of your posts on fixing/sorting problems on gs's and I respect what you say, it was just me getting the wrong end of the stick by looking at too much info.

Thanks again

spike

 

[patzx12]

Get on to ebay.de clutch translates to Kupplung.
see item: Artikelnummer: 260731494626
I would only change the pressure plate if the rest looked good.
Its not too bad a job, an experienced BMW mechanic would fly through this job. Read through old posts and dont hesitate to ask questions,
good luck

 

[Pukmeister]

At the end of the day, it's only nuts and bolts.

 

[ghiribizzo]

That's fair enough patzx12 but having done plenty clutches on 1100 RS/RTs etc. - you don't want to have to go back in yet again if it lets go. Part replacement can be a false economy. Dare I suggest that if Spike was au fait with whether the bike's clutch components are good or not he'd not be asking how to separate an oilhead BM...
It's an easy job if you have the kit and ability but I guess spike sees why the dealer wants £400.
Steptoe hath spoken...
Ah well. Same job different flavour on a Guzzi tomorrow!

 

[patzx12]

Certainly makes sense to change it all.

 

[Spike]

Well I fixed the siezed calliper on my L200 today so this weekend I will starting to strip the bike to do the clutch and other jobs too.

1. clutch change
2. fit new brake disc
3. spray paint front cover
4. full service, never trust a dealer that sells you a bike to do this even when they say they will
5. I am sure there will be something else to ha ha

spike

P.S I will be doing a full pictured how too on the clutch swap for the 1200 as there is not one on here as a sticky.

 

[Spike]

Ok bike in two halves and the clutch is striped out of it, took me a little while as I was playing photographer aswell.
Got loads of pics and will be doing a how too when i have it all back together.

Anyway I found the problem to my slipping clutch.

The toloerances for a 1200 clutch new 6.4mm to worn 4.4mm, MINE was 4.13mm yes well fooked.
I think the previous owner either did alot of off road or used it as a daily commute in london or he just could not ride a bike to save his life.

Anyway i am happy that it was this and not something major, just got to get it back together again now.

Spike