katgoat
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Hi , has anyone any experience with restricting a GS1200, for learner permit purposes, is it difficult to have done and does it have a huge effect on perfornance. The restriction required is 25 KW or 35 BHP , thanks
Don't do it.
It's a big heavy bike, and restricting it is pointless.
Go for something more suitable.
It's a big heavy bike, and restricting it is pointless.
Go for something more suitable.
thats a hell of a restriction for a 100bhp bike. as said above i wouldnt feel comfortable riding a big trin so restricted. go for something a little lighter/smaller and take your time. i had a 600 Yam XT. that would be a better intro and just as much fun
katgoat
Guest
Thanks for your replies guys, but already own a gs 1200 so have no choice but to restrict, anymore imput would be welcome, thanks again.
Bones
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http://www.fiinternational.com/ShowDetails.asp?name=R1200GS&type=BMW
There you go. A local lad restricted his R1 so I see no treason why you shouldn't with a GS. I have no idea how much performance is going to be reduced but it will be significant,
I am just pleased that my license was gained in an era when you could learn on a 100mph 250, take a single ten minute test, then ride what you like.
There you go. A local lad restricted his R1 so I see no treason why you shouldn't with a GS. I have no idea how much performance is going to be reduced but it will be significant,
I am just pleased that my license was gained in an era when you could learn on a 100mph 250, take a single ten minute test, then ride what you like.
You almost still can, except the test of course?
I learnt on a 500cc, took a written and then a single bike test and migrated to a 900 striaght away. im guessing the questioner is under 21 hence the need to restrict?
Pank CB
Registered user
GS Restricting
Hi cant see any problem. when you restrict an injection bike all you do is restrict the throttle opening . what you get is a perfectly normal GS . How often in the real world do you actually use more than a quarter throttle - go for it !
Hi cant see any problem. when you restrict an injection bike all you do is restrict the throttle opening . what you get is a perfectly normal GS . How often in the real world do you actually use more than a quarter throttle - go for it !
Bikerbuk
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Bought a FI international restrictor for my son's Suzuki SV650, fuel injected bike. The throttle doesn't open as much but otherwise the bike rides like normal. His top speed is restricted to about 85mph as a result (not that it's ever been at that speed) 
but it gets there just as well as a non restricted bike.
but it gets there just as well as a non restricted bike.are you serious?,how often do i use more than quarter throttle?
did you really mean to type such a ridiculous comment?
The Restriction is 33BHP. BMW will probably be able to supply the parts you need. (Harley Davidson for instance, make a restrictor kit for evey bike they make. BMW will probably do similar).
Go talk to your local deler for details and pricing. Probably cheaper than you think.
Effectively the restriction will consist of a replacement throttle stop, preventing the rider ataining full throttle, thus restricting the power output.
Some of the leagle stuff:
Any rider who passed his test on a 125cc machine restricted to 11Kw/ 14BHP will then have his licence entitalment restricted to motorcycles with a maximum power output of 25Kw/33BHP for a period of two years from the date he passed his test.
Q, How can you tell if the bike he is riding is restricted?
A, Not very easily.
Q, Who is responsible for proving the bike is restricted?
A, Anyone who has a leagle right to know. IE Police and the Insurance company covering the rider.
It is the reposebility of these people to prove the bike is restricted. NOT the Rider.
Q, Does the rider need a cetificate proving the bike is restricted?
A, No. There is no requierment in the law for the rider to have any such certificate. It is simply a money making sceam justifying a high price (£100+) for a reletively cheap job. (BMW charge less then £50.00 to supply and fit the restictor to the F650gs single).
In real life most riders with restricted licences aren't actually riding restricted bikes. They ride with their fingers crossed that they don't fall off. And even when they do the Insurance and Police arn't interested if the bike is restricted. Unless significant speed and serious damage on the riders part is considered to be the cause.
Val.
They ain't exactly rocketships with 100BHP, knocking it down to a third of that is gonna make for a horribly flat motor - as already stated don't do it!
Pank CB
Registered user
GS
Hi again, I do think some of you are taking my reply out of context. All I'm trying to say is, if you only have a resticted licence, resticting a GS is no worse than a lot of other bikes.
Hi again, I do think some of you are taking my reply out of context. All I'm trying to say is, if you only have a resticted licence, resticting a GS is no worse than a lot of other bikes.
skywalker
Guest
Can't remember how much it restricts it by off top of my head but your dealer can plug it into the GT1 & restrict it using the CIP programme
Bikerbuk
Registered user
Quite agree
The whole point of these kits is to allow you to buy the bike you want first time instead of having to fork out on one bike then lose money on it before forking out for the bike you wanted in the first place. Don't see that restricting a GS is any different from any other bike. Unthinkable to those who don't need to but a necessity for those who have no choice. In my experience, the restriction makes only a little difference to the overall performance of the bike but it's worth putting up with for two years to ride the bike you want. If the kit's available, go for it. Peace of mind for two years if anything does happen.
The whole point of these kits is to allow you to buy the bike you want first time instead of having to fork out on one bike then lose money on it before forking out for the bike you wanted in the first place. Don't see that restricting a GS is any different from any other bike. Unthinkable to those who don't need to but a necessity for those who have no choice. In my experience, the restriction makes only a little difference to the overall performance of the bike but it's worth putting up with for two years to ride the bike you want. If the kit's available, go for it. Peace of mind for two years if anything does happen.
Irish law requires that the person proves that the bike is restricted they have to prove in law that they meet all requirements of the vechicle they are in control of. There is no onus on the prosecution to prove anything they just ask the questions like tax Insurence nct entailment to ride (licence) and any other revenant questions under many acts road traffic haulage private / public hire ect. and its up to the driver / owner to prove they are compliant.The Restriction is 33BHP. BMW will probably be able to supply the parts you need. (Harley Davidson for instance, make a restrictor kit for evey bike they make. BMW will probably do similar).
Go talk to your local deler for details and pricing. Probably cheaper than you think.
Effectively the restriction will consist of a replacement throttle stop, preventing the rider ataining full throttle, thus restricting the power output.
Some of the leagle stuff:
Any rider who passed his test on a 125cc machine restricted to 11Kw/ 14BHP will then have his licence entitalment restricted to motorcycles with a maximum power output of 25Kw/33BHP for a period of two years from the date he passed his test.
Q, How can you tell if the bike he is riding is restricted?
A, Not very easily.
Q, Who is responsible for proving the bike is restricted?
A, Anyone who has a leagle right to know. IE Police and the Insurance company covering the rider.
It is the reposebility of these people to prove the bike is restricted. NOT the Rider.
Q, Does the rider need a cetificate proving the bike is restricted?
A, No. There is no requierment in the law for the rider to have any such certificate. It is simply a money making sceam justifying a high price (£100+) for a reletively cheap job. (BMW charge less then £50.00 to supply and fit the restictor to the F650gs single).
In real life most riders with restricted licences aren't actually riding restricted bikes. They ride with their fingers crossed that they don't fall off. And even when they do the Insurance and Police arn't interested if the bike is restricted. Unless significant speed and serious damage on the riders part is considered to be the cause.
Val.
I rode a restricted f 800 s with no bother at all go for it.
grasmith0149
Registered user
snerkler
Registered user
As far as I'm aware you can restrict any bike. However the heavier the bike the worse it will be when restricted. To reduce HP I would assume it reduces torque (unless they only rev to 3000 RPM), and with so little torque a bike as heavy as the 1200GS is sure going to struggle. I can't seeing being at all nice to ride, but you never know.
Not so you could be riding at 7000 with the throttle closed producing nil bhp or minus bhp JJH
Blind Lemon Ade
Registered user
They're quoting £172 for restricting a Kawa ER5 !!!
I took the restrictors out of T'Missus' one years ago - they were two metal discs with a concentric hole.
Two feckin' washers for £172 ??? Jeez!
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