~Stef~ said:
First off you dont know me personally and jumping to the conclusion that im narrow minded on a comment on a forum is a bit "narrow minded".
sorry maybe i was a little execive,,I'm just kind of tyred of the same old song
Yes the risers look the dogs but £200 for a piece of machined alloy and bit of TUBE is not what I call VFM.
look Stef ...
A)the bars retail for $105 us dollar and they are regarded as the best motorcycle bar the money can buy,they are made of some really sofisticad alloy call EA-70(some 7000 series allow,also the are made in a really special way and feature inner and outside taper on the diameter providing exelent shock absortion and vibration carecteristics.
and that is before I extensibly modified them(7 operations) so the heated grips can be use on them,so image the extra investment require.
A`)I used to carry 16 diferent models some in 4 diferent colors and they were like my "Brushes" even better my Tools,to acomplish a very specific job
B)the clamps i suppy are made for each specific bike and rider(4 diferent GS modles to fit the diferent needs) aka a lot of Inventory require)they are also as well made and develope as anything you ever see on a motorcycle,,hell I have clients that design for NASA and I get complements for them all the time,the pretty much cost the same as the Verholen and the actually fit PERFECTLLY,not only mecanically but ergonomically and stetically(plus the are warranty to do,so is nothing to losse)
C) I used to spend as much time as needed to figure out the perfect fit for each person,,sometimes took 20 minutes sometimes I spend 10-15 hours until every issue was study and THEN I send the bars
D) many times I end up consulting the clients about seats, pegs and other related items since i need to be sure the bike is optial for the person before I install the grips were they need to be,many times i lost a sale that way since the person invest the money destine for my product or a more comfortable seat or something,but i'm kind of okay with that since will be silly to "install the windows before you build the house"all this already made the bike better even before i got any money from them...
did I mension the i have a degre in Ergonomics plus many years of experience interacting objects with machines.
E) I used to provide(I still do for my current clients) absolute 100% satisfaction warranty,,aka no questions ask I will not rest until the ergonomics were absolutlly dial in...
if those arguments are not sufficient here you have some more.
Let see what I offer was not the Object,was a RESULT...
*A bike that feels 50kilos lighter.
*A bike that handle like is on rails.
* A bar that will not fold or bend if you tragically crash
*A design that will not transmite vibration from the engine or the road and will not generete any nummness on your hands
*A Body that can ride two if not three times the distance with out any pain.
*A Bike that will fit you like was made for at the factory "just for you"
* plus a bunch more intangible assets that made "a Bike YoUr bike"
again sorry if i was a litte offensive, but was absolutlly no need to post the same comment two times..
i quess at the moment does not really matter anymore since you can not get some not even if you really want to..
is also incredible how people will spend so much money on a piece of Tube=>exaust pipe,or on a silly spring aka the shocks(well at least the good ones make a big diference) or a piece of foam= the seat...in short sometimes is not the fisical object but the result that they provide what makes them essencial,also sometimes LESS is far more important than more not to mension far more dificult to achive.