Riding in France/ and other European with CE gloves

[Wapping]

And it means? As you must have had the wisdom imparted to you as to what and why? You are now dusy bound to pass the " Wapping White line missive" into tosser law...

Henceforth we can use quoted words, "Well according to Wappers " when we make this transgression

It turned out to be an offence to even think about crossing it. They read your thoughts, these foreign chaps, through clever machines. The machines are disguised as dustbins, horse boxes and (so I am told) entire houses, my mate says.

 

[bowser]

Was told by a local biker in Austria that riding there with flip helmet up would be considered as riding without a helmet unless the helmet was rated to operate flipped-up.
My Schuberth S3 is not so rated, afaik. Maybe others are.

Of course it is, same in UK, its only ok to wear it fliped if tested and designed to do so at least in Austria they are likley to give you the benifit of the doubt,
although they probably dont care, much the same as the old bill dont care here

 

[Arsey]

I was told by a local biker that you go as fast as you like. That proved to be bollocks. I can only suspect that it had lost something in the translation.

If riding in Germany, have this message across the bottom of your number plate

Schon gut, du kleiner Nazi – ich habe ein Pfund Butter im Kühlschrank​

 

[Wapping]

If riding in Germany, have this message across the bottom of your number plate

Schon gut, du kleiner Nazi – ich habe ein Pfund Butter im Kühlschrank​

https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/04/v1-60e9a39bba9fddb5b0989553726a85a2-neural-Vicki.mp3

 

[er-minio]

Was told by a local biker in Austria that riding there with flip helmet up would be considered as riding without a helmet unless the helmet was rated to operate flipped-up.
My Schuberth S3 is not so rated, afaik. Maybe others are.

If I remember correctly Schuberth helmets are the only ones that are certified in both open and close position.
All other flip helmets cannot be used while open as it would classify as not wearing an helmet. This is quite a common topic in Italy.

 

[Wapping]

Has anyone ever been stopped for hooning or bimbling along with a flip top lid open, let alone prosecuted?

 

[er-minio]

I despise flip helmets, so have no idea – but probably not

 

[Arsey]

I despise flip helmets, so have no idea – but probably not

They should be banned !!!!

 

[Wapping]

They should be banned !!!!

I fear you have confused a simple helmet, with Bill Poster.

 

[sanqhar]

If I remember correctly Schuberth helmets are the only ones that are certified in both open and close position.
All other flip helmets cannot be used while open as it would classify as not wearing an helmet. This is quite a common topic in Italy.

Not true.
See: https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/tested-shoei-neotec-ii-helmet-review

The relevant bit is:

"For maximum ventilation, you can of course ride with the chin section up. While everyone who used to own a Neotec also did this with no problem (including police riders), the Neotec II is dual-homologated, meaning it can legally be ridden with the chin bar open. To do this, the chin must latch securely in the up position, but as it feels no stiffer than the old Neotec, there’s no disadvantage."

I think it is only the Schuberth C5 (and later versions) that's legal to use open.

tom

 

[DJ123]

Not true.
See: https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/tested-shoei-neotec-ii-helmet-review

The relevant bit is:

"For maximum ventilation, you can of course ride with the chin section up. While everyone who used to own a Neotec also did this with no problem (including police riders), the Neotec II is dual-homologated, meaning it can legally be ridden with the chin bar open. To do this, the chin must latch securely in the up position, but as it feels no stiffer than the old Neotec, there’s no disadvantage."

I think it is only the Schuberth C5 (and later versions) that's legal to use open.

tom

I believe it all falls under the ece 2206 regulation, where the helmet can be locked in the pilot position which gives it the safety rating.

 

[casbar]

The Neotec 2 has two flip positions, if you just push it up, then push again it locks into the open position, which is why it is certified to be used with the flip up.

 

[er-minio]

Not true.
See: https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/tested-shoei-neotec-ii-helmet-review

The relevant bit is:

"For maximum ventilation, you can of course ride with the chin section up. While everyone who used to own a Neotec also did this with no problem (including police riders), the Neotec II is dual-homologated, meaning it can legally be ridden with the chin bar open. To do this, the chin must latch securely in the up position, but as it feels no stiffer than the old Neotec, there’s no disadvantage."

I think it is only the Schuberth C5 (and later versions) that's legal to use open.

tom

Yes, but the helmet has to be homologated in both configurations. Not all makers do homologate when open. Just double check the homologation to be 100% sure if in doubt.

 

[Engineer]

I am going to France in June, will the gendarmes inspect my helmet?

 

[Wapping]

Can we get back to gloves, please.

 

[Engineer]

To answer the OP's question yes pillions have to wear CE gloves too.

 

[casbar]

The Neotec 2 is homologated. It is one of their selling points, instead of surmising, why not just google the product.

 

[Wapping]

Enough, enough.