Me too...................saw one today, with panniers
Looked awful.......................now the Multistrada was a different proposition, very nice
Rode a Super Ten today...
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Me too...................saw one today, with panniers
Looked awful.......................now the Multistrada was a different proposition, very nice
elevensies
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they look shit.
saw one in silver and it looks like every other gs copy (apart from ducati/ moto morini, and the guzzi)
im totally gob smacked that people think they are worth it, when you can get a new and just as good valadero nearly half the price.
saw one in silver and it looks like every other gs copy (apart from ducati/ moto morini, and the guzzi)
im totally gob smacked that people think they are worth it, when you can get a new and just as good valadero nearly half the price.
Super Ten test ride..
I'm test riding a Super Ten on Friday so if anyones interested i'll post a report this weekend!!!!
I'm test riding a Super Ten on Friday so if anyones interested i'll post a report this weekend!!!!
Davy F
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Thunder
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Common old things, I tried one as well, I'll wait for Davy to get his post together, would'nt want to steal his Thunder 
Davy F
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Fek me Roger ! Those pics off your iphone are bleeding brilliant !!!!!!
For some reason, the site no longer lets me post decent sized pics anymore. I'll maybe have to start using a host.
For some reason, the site no longer lets me post decent sized pics anymore. I'll maybe have to start using a host.
Thunder
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Aye, well pleased with it, should have grabbed some HD video as well but you were away before I remembered it can do that to
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Truely 100% horrible silencer !!!
That 1100 is a peach
£4,250 for that and £8,000 or so ( difference ) in the bank....no contest
That 1100 is a peach
£4,250 for that and £8,000 or so ( difference ) in the bank....no contest
Davy F
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That 1100 is a peach
You want to ride it ! The carb conversion makes such a difference and the ommph it now has in top gear is fantastic.
Davy F
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My Super Tenere test ride.
I was able to take the much talked about Yamaha XTZ Super Tenere out for a test ride, so here's my impressions.
Leaving the dealers (Hurst Yamaha in Belfast), I headed out through the city traffic. At town speeds, the bike is easy to thread through our busy roads and it feels very nicely balanced and light on its feet. Yamaha have done a good job of hiding the weight of this bike and coupled with a truly excellent drivetrain (it feels as good as a chain driven bike with no clunking in first like my '05 12GS), slow speed manouvers are a doddle. I felt it was easier to filter between cars than on the GS, but that was possibly more down to (the thought of) not having two cylinders poking out each side. Yes, I know most will say as long as the handlebars go through, the rest of the bike will, so maybe it's just a confidence thing for me. Chugging the bike in top gear in a city environment isn't the best of ideas and the big parrallel twin did start to complain a bit, but I could easily ride my GS at the same speed in sixth without complaint. So it's more necessary to be in the correct gear at low speeds on the big Yam.
Anyway, I headed out of the city and called to Chez Thunder. I always appreciate chewing the fat with Roger and wanted to get his thoughts on the Super Ten. I even broke his 'I don't ride others bikes' rule (breaking strain of a Crunchie), but I'll leave what he thought up to the man himself. Up to this point, I must admit to being slightly underwhelmed. The engine felt flat (tho' there was barely over 200 miles on it at this point) and it was very much a typical Japanese product, lacking a bit of 'soul'. However, leaving Roger, I headed off out into the countryside towards several roads I ride often which should give me a better overall idea about the Super Ten.
What a transformation !
The XTZ is now in its natural habitat. The flat feeling has gone as I've got more used to the power delivery (I kept it mostly in Sport mode). It is actually a very deceptive engine. I guess with the flatulant exhaust note, the bike doesn't seem to be terribly quick, but that impression is quite wrong. This thing flies ! Reving it through the gearbox (which is very nice) is not the best way to ride this thing. Get it into fifth or sixth and just roll the throttle on and off. I came up behind traffic on several occasions and with 40 mph showing on the very large speedo, clear ahead, crack the throttle open and you're past very very quickly. It is every bit as good as my old GS was in this respect and seemed to pull stronger the higher the speed.
Sitting at 80/90 is too easy and made better by the lack of buffeting compared to the GS. The screen looked to be on its most forward position and I was most impressed by how calm it was sitting behind it. Needless to say, the brakes are also terrific, typical powerful Yamaha brakes with loads of feel. The ABS isn't as intrusive as the GS's and don't activate as early as the formers do. Handling wise, nothing to complain about. I would have liked to take time to tweak it a bit for my lardy frame, but it coped without fuss and bend swinging is a joy. There is one vey bumpy stretch of road I'm familiar with, one which had me out of the seat of my GS many a time. The Yamaha soaked this up with ease, but made me think that the suspension could do with some personal adjustment. But what do you expect on a demo bike ?
I did take it off road and blattered around a convienent farmers freshly cut field. Not quite the Ewan and Charlie experiance, but it was fun and again, the bikes weight has been well disguised. Obviously, the road biased tyres have their limitations.
So overall ? Well, it is a very accomplished machine, but will always come second to hardcore GS owners no matter how good it is. Most folk will not get over the price (for a Yamaha) and it does lack a few features that come with the 12GS (I missed the gear indicator mostly). The finish is (IMO) very good, but time will sort that out. The looks are very subjective and I must admit to preferring the mechanicaly ulgy look of the GS. The two mode choices I could do without. Maybe with a pillion and fully loaded up for a touring holiday would make this feature more useful, but I doubt it and wish Yamaha had invested the money into fitting the likes of heated grips and the gear indicator instead. The worst point about the whole experiance was the seat. 65 miles into the ride I had a rather sore butt. However, it's no worse than my GS of old which was sorted out by a Sargent saddle and I bet Sargent are working on one as a matter of course.
Is it as good as a GS/A ? IMO, yes it is. It is different (note I didn't say better), but not massively different. Would I buy one ? Emmm, not yet. Again, price comes into it and I'm not hooked on the styling so much. However, it took me a year to finally buy a 12GS after a test ride, so time will tell.
I was able to take the much talked about Yamaha XTZ Super Tenere out for a test ride, so here's my impressions.
Leaving the dealers (Hurst Yamaha in Belfast), I headed out through the city traffic. At town speeds, the bike is easy to thread through our busy roads and it feels very nicely balanced and light on its feet. Yamaha have done a good job of hiding the weight of this bike and coupled with a truly excellent drivetrain (it feels as good as a chain driven bike with no clunking in first like my '05 12GS), slow speed manouvers are a doddle. I felt it was easier to filter between cars than on the GS, but that was possibly more down to (the thought of) not having two cylinders poking out each side. Yes, I know most will say as long as the handlebars go through, the rest of the bike will, so maybe it's just a confidence thing for me. Chugging the bike in top gear in a city environment isn't the best of ideas and the big parrallel twin did start to complain a bit, but I could easily ride my GS at the same speed in sixth without complaint. So it's more necessary to be in the correct gear at low speeds on the big Yam.
Anyway, I headed out of the city and called to Chez Thunder. I always appreciate chewing the fat with Roger and wanted to get his thoughts on the Super Ten. I even broke his 'I don't ride others bikes' rule (breaking strain of a Crunchie
), but I'll leave what he thought up to the man himself. Up to this point, I must admit to being slightly underwhelmed. The engine felt flat (tho' there was barely over 200 miles on it at this point) and it was very much a typical Japanese product, lacking a bit of 'soul'. However, leaving Roger, I headed off out into the countryside towards several roads I ride often which should give me a better overall idea about the Super Ten.
What a transformation !
The XTZ is now in its natural habitat. The flat feeling has gone as I've got more used to the power delivery (I kept it mostly in Sport mode). It is actually a very deceptive engine. I guess with the flatulant exhaust note, the bike doesn't seem to be terribly quick, but that impression is quite wrong. This thing flies ! Reving it through the gearbox (which is very nice) is not the best way to ride this thing. Get it into fifth or sixth and just roll the throttle on and off. I came up behind traffic on several occasions and with 40 mph showing on the very large speedo, clear ahead, crack the throttle open and you're past very very quickly. It is every bit as good as my old GS was in this respect and seemed to pull stronger the higher the speed.
Sitting at 80/90 is too easy and made better by the lack of buffeting compared to the GS. The screen looked to be on its most forward position and I was most impressed by how calm it was sitting behind it. Needless to say, the brakes are also terrific, typical powerful Yamaha brakes with loads of feel. The ABS isn't as intrusive as the GS's and don't activate as early as the formers do. Handling wise, nothing to complain about. I would have liked to take time to tweak it a bit for my lardy frame, but it coped without fuss and bend swinging is a joy. There is one vey bumpy stretch of road I'm familiar with, one which had me out of the seat of my GS many a time. The Yamaha soaked this up with ease, but made me think that the suspension could do with some personal adjustment. But what do you expect on a demo bike ?
I did take it off road and blattered around a convienent farmers freshly cut field. Not quite the Ewan and Charlie experiance, but it was fun and again, the bikes weight has been well disguised. Obviously, the road biased tyres have their limitations.
So overall ? Well, it is a very accomplished machine, but will always come second to hardcore GS owners no matter how good it is. Most folk will not get over the price (for a Yamaha) and it does lack a few features that come with the 12GS (I missed the gear indicator mostly). The finish is (IMO) very good, but time will sort that out. The looks are very subjective and I must admit to preferring the mechanicaly ulgy look of the GS. The two mode choices I could do without. Maybe with a pillion and fully loaded up for a touring holiday would make this feature more useful, but I doubt it and wish Yamaha had invested the money into fitting the likes of heated grips and the gear indicator instead. The worst point about the whole experiance was the seat. 65 miles into the ride I had a rather sore butt. However, it's no worse than my GS of old which was sorted out by a Sargent saddle and I bet Sargent are working on one as a matter of course.
Is it as good as a GS/A ? IMO, yes it is. It is different (note I didn't say better), but not massively different. Would I buy one ? Emmm, not yet. Again, price comes into it and I'm not hooked on the styling so much. However, it took me a year to finally buy a 12GS after a test ride, so time will tell.
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Thanks for that wee report. I had thought very serously about one of these but the fact I can't see one in the dealers up here let alone go for a test ride on one I havn't taken it any further. Yor report seemed very unbiassed so I take it you have never worked for MCN or any of the magazines either as you never once mention Fireblade or R1 in your comparissons.
I really like these but this particular one is not the cloour I would choose and as you say the price is in fantasy land. I recently test rode a K1300GT and realised that a multi cylinder is not for me as far to revvy and I will be purchasing another twin of some sorts soon
Thanks for posting.
AndyT
I really like these but this particular one is not the cloour I would choose and as you say the price is in fantasy land. I recently test rode a K1300GT and realised that a multi cylinder is not for me as far to revvy and I will be purchasing another twin of some sorts soon
Thanks for posting.
AndyT
Davy F
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And if someone wants a bit of a bargin (that is cheaper than the full price rather than trying to make a profit on something...like say on a Rolex watch )...............
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2010-XT1200Z-...iewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19bdd60daf
)...............http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2010-XT1200Z-...iewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19bdd60daf
patzx12
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You want to ride it ! The carb conversion makes such a difference and the ommph it now has in top gear is fantastic.
"Carb conversion" raised an interest in my engineering DNA. did you post a write up on this, has enyone ever converted a 1200 to carbs?
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No Andy, but I'm open to offers......
I guess I'll have to demo the 2010 GSA at some point so that I can see how much better the latest model is over the '05 I had. And that's the kicker, the Super Ten compares favouably against what I know, a five year old 'out of date' motorcycle which has effectivly been superceeded twice to date.
No Andy, but I'm open to offers......
Ye auld tart....
Did you take it out to Tor Head....? 
Davy F
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Ye auld tart....
No mate, didn't have time for that as I didn't get it until early afternoon. I covered about 100 miles all on roads I know well which I thought would be the best way of forming a reasonably objective opinion.
Davy F
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Hope this will answer some of your questions. As for a 1200 conversion, don't know if it's possible (the canbus might make things impossible).
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236298
patzx12
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True, you would have to rip out all the canbus s--t.
Would be fun though with a cheap damage repairable..
Would be fun though with a cheap damage repairable..
rickyxsara
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ToRR HeadYe auld tart....
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