rpm's

usually around 4K in general riding - higher when the blood is up and there are plenty of bends to play with. I find I use the gears a lot for deceleration into corners as it gets the bike nice and tight into the line - then I'm often at 5k and above.
Any particular reason for asking?
 
aspad said:
usually around 4K in general riding - higher when the blood is up and there are plenty of bends to play with. I find I use the gears a lot for deceleration into corners as it gets the bike nice and tight into the line - then I'm often at 5k and above.
Any particular reason for asking?



I am asking because I find that under 3,000 rpm there's no guts. On the other hand, I wonder if I would be doing engine harm if I always rode above 4,000. Right now in town I ride at 3,000 to 3,500 and on the highway at 4,000.

I have never had a boxer before, so I wonder what they can take.

Thanks

North
 
I wonder if I would be doing engine harm if I always rode above 4,000

are you serious ??

you'll be doing more harm to it at 3-4 k than at 8-9k.

the motor is a 4 valve short -stroke perfectly primary and secondary mechanically balanced engine , not an old BSA 350 single !!
 
motomartin said:
I wonder if I would be doing engine harm if I always rode above 4,000

are you serious ??

you'll be doing more harm to it at 3-4 k than at 8-9k.

the motor is a 4 valve short -stroke perfectly primary and secondary mechanically balanced engine , not an old BSA 350 single !!

Thanks,

I am serious, thats why I am asking.

North
 
motomartin said:
I wonder if I would be doing engine harm if I always rode above 4,000

are you serious ??

you'll be doing more harm to it at 3-4 k than at 8-9k.

The redline is at 7900 rpm, so I'm not sure that's quite right :D

As long as you don't strain the engine by making it work too hard at low rpm, you won't do it any harm by using the full range of revs. In theory I suppose you should work around the rpm where the torque is greatest, which is about 5.5k I think, and in practice I find myself using between 4 to 6k, occasionally going up to 7 or so.
 
I use all revs,... coz I paid for them... :)
Seriously; I think the only real damage you can do to a modern engine is to keep it stressed on low revs for a long time. The engines like being revved all around the rev-range. Just ride the bike... :) That's what it's built for :)
 
I think I use it much like mouse. There is a nice surge at 5k plus, which you shouldn't miss out on.......up she comes in second :)
 
I thought that the alternator kicked in on the 1200 at 4k or above as well...
 
Normally I run between 4-5K. I cruise at 80 Mph which is 4300 or so. I do like to run it up to redline now and again, and agree that the engine wakes up just over 5k. I think I tend to under-rev a bit.
 
I must admit to bouncing it off the rev limiter on quite a frequent basis, having 'graduated' from sportsbikes. I do it less frequently these days but still do every now and again.

I'm sure more long term damage would happen by labouring the engine all the time and only doing 3k a year on sunday mornings :)
 
nadeem said:
I thought that the alternator kicked in on the 1200 at 4k or above as well...

I don't think the alternator will "kick in", it's more of a progressive thing. For example at 2k rpm it might be able to supply 50% of rated maximum current, rising to 100% at (again for example) 5k.

And if you aren't drawing 600W (the rated max of the alternator) then it doesn't matter that it's not running at capacity.
 
I rode an R12GS the other day, first time on a big bike and I have a question related to this.

When starting out, I find the Boxer sounds like it's pinging like crazy, and I feel that my choice to minimize this is either to burn some clutch and keep the RPM's higher, or live through the pinging for the 2 to 3 seconds that it takes to get the (empty) bike up to speed in first gear. I imagine it must be crazy when loaded with the heavy aluminum cupboards full of gear, and a passenger.

What do you guys do? Live with the bit of engine labour, or burn a bit of clutch?

Al...
 
araspitfire said:
I rode an R12GS the other day, first time on a big bike and I have a question related to this.

When starting out, I find the Boxer sounds like it's pinging like crazy, and I feel that my choice to minimize this is either to burn some clutch and keep the RPM's higher, or live through the pinging for the 2 to 3 seconds that it takes to get the (empty) bike up to speed in first gear. I imagine it must be crazy when loaded with the heavy aluminum cupboards full of gear, and a passenger.

What do you guys do? Live with the bit of engine labour, or burn a bit of clutch?

Al...

Unless the fuel is rubbish or there is a fault, it shouldn't be pinging. So, to answer your question, neither.

Stephen
 
araspitfire said:
I rode an R12GS the other day, first time on a big bike and I have a question related to this.

When starting out, I find the Boxer sounds like it's pinging like crazy, and I feel that my choice to minimize this is either to burn some clutch and keep the RPM's higher, or live through the pinging for the 2 to 3 seconds that it takes to get the (empty) bike up to speed in first gear. I imagine it must be crazy when loaded with the heavy aluminum cupboards full of gear, and a passenger.

What do you guys do? Live with the bit of engine labour, or burn a bit of clutch?

Al...

The bikes equipped with anti knock equipment, so should'nt ping at all!

Shep :guitarist
 
RPM's

I took mine to the Isle of Man last week and put both the bike and myself to the test. Quite character forming!!

For anyone not in the know, there's no upper national speed limit on IoM which makes for some interesting riding experiences especially when riding the mountain section - a world famous stretch of around 13 miles with just about all the variety we look for - fantastic bends, good straights, hairpins and most of all, great views of the road and other users where you need them most.

When pushing the bike I found it best to use rev ranges higher than I would use for 'normal' everyday road riding. I was pushing right up to 7,000 before changing gear and then mainly using 3rd and 4th gear right up to the limit. Only occasionally did I get up to 5th and then only when I was on the longer straight sections when she was about to hit the rev limiter. Engine braking was fantastic on the tight bends, she handled beautufully in the twisty sections and held her own with sports bikes quite well.

Didn't dare look at the speedo most of the time, but a pal filmed me from his Fireblade with his clock in view coming down the straight towards the Creg at just over 120 when I think I used 6th for the only time

The bike felt good at the high revs and was really responsive - some of the guys I was with are racers and so very experienced at this style of riding - they reckon that the engine will feel no ill effetcs whatsoever and would suffer more damage when under load in a high gear.

If you get the chance try riding at higher revs in a lower gear and if you ever get the opportunity to visit the IoM to do some 'Missionary Work' take a tip from me and JFDI!!

It'll certainly give you a few of these :D

PS - Anyone who knows how to get the little volcano shaped bulge out of my seat let me know - come to think of it I'll just leave it there so my sphincter's got something to hang onto next time!!
 


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