rt mono shock recommendation

[chrisshrops]

well my rear shock is well and truly cack .
So any thoughts on a new one ?cheap hagon ? or wilbers any other suggestions most welcome .
the bike is naked and mostly just me riding the bumpy shropshire roads.
l look forward too your views folks

 

[Mav]

well my rear shock is well and truly cack .
So any thoughts on a new one ?cheap hagon ? or wilbers any other suggestions most welcome .
the bike is naked and mostly just me riding the bumpy shropshire roads.
l look forward too your views folks

I have the same question... was leaning towards a Wilbur...

 

[Beemerboff]

Ohlins.

 

[Rob Farmer]

At least two other guys and myself have had the upper shock mount on hagon shear off.its a feeble design and not much fun when the back end collapses at 70mph.

Personally I think wilburs are vastly overrated and not much good but plenty of the guys like them. I've had four or five and have been disappointed with the action, I've bought the £400 versions but suspect that the more expensive version will have a much better operation.

If you look at the tool bar on the side, ftr suspension are advertising various shocks, yss is another option that people who have bought them seem very happy with.

 

[Time Traveller]

Check out Nitron. High quality, less money, British (if that matters to you) and non standard springs arent an extra cost like others ( i think most shock brands come at spring rate set for the average 85kg person. . .If you weigh different then you pay for adifferent spring)

http://www.nitron.co.uk/

They are a big name in motorsport and highly respected.

 

[chrisshrops]

thanks for the feed back rob thats hagon out the window,and maybe wilbers too I will have a look at that time traveler sounds good .
keep the feedback coming chaps

 

[chrisshrops]

At least two other guys and myself have had the upper shock mount on hagon shear off.its a feeble design and not much fun when the back end collapses at 70mph.

out of interest rob what did hagons say when you told them about this?
it sounds potentially lethal

 

[Ras Thurlo]

On my unfaired RT I have the Wilbur adjustable rear shock + fork springs.

The set-up comes out reasonably stiff, which is not a terrible thing for a road bike and the handling is great.

very happy with the rear and a blend of the weak engine + stiff spring means I have perceptively no jacking. Admittedly I am not asking the world out of this shock, but am happy with it.

my current issue are the forks, which have a bunch of stiction and are v.far from being supaplush.

am now considering a fork upgrade...

 

[chrisshrops]

Thanks for that Ras
I have also looked at fork upgrades ,im not too sure about it yet though,maybe your forks need a good rebuild and a cartridge conversion
regards chris

 

[litelfun]

Thanks for that Ras
I have also looked at fork upgrades ,im not too sure about it yet though,maybe your forks need a good rebuild and a cartridge conversion
regards chris

just get some wilbers or wp springs and you will see a big diferance of course with new oil I wouldent go for new cartriges to expensive and not much diferance !!! you can get a nice WP rear schock secondhand for around 120 to 220 euro on german ebay the gs ones sell licke gold dust but not so much call for r100r or RT I think their are a few on their now !!! shame I dident no 2 monthes ago I sold one with reserver

 

[chrisshrops]

Thanks fella

 

[Rob Farmer]

thanks for the feed back rob thats hagon out the window,and maybe wilbers too I will have a look at that time traveler sounds good .
keep the feedback coming chaps

Thanks for the Heads up on the Nitron Shock TT. The Nitron looks like a good option

The Hagon only has a very thin loop for the shock mount, The welds holding it to the main shock had stressed the steel causing a weak spot. I got in touch with Hagon who asked for the shock back for inspection, it was three years old when it failed. They sent me a covering letter and a Brand new shock with a full years warranty on it. Small consolation.

There was no sign of twisting or buckling just a clean shear through the welds.

 

[chrisshrops]

good grief that could have gone so wrong for you Rob.
I think the nitro shock looks like the way I may well be going,and some new fork springs plus a good fork overhaul .

 

[Time Traveller]

Wow.

 

[Wrigsby1]

Thanks for the Heads up on the Nitron Shock TT. The Nitron looks like a good option

The Hagon only has a very thin loop for the shock mount, The welds holding it to the main shock had stressed the steel causing a weak spot. I got in touch with Hagon who asked for the shock back for inspection, it was three years old when it failed. They sent me a covering letter and a Brand new shock with a full years warranty on it. Small consolation.

There was no sign of twisting or buckling just a clean shear through the welds.

I'd seen this feedback before and it's always at the back of my mind when I see "Hagon".... They might have sold tons over the years but failures like this could be very serious indeed...

 

[Rob Farmer]

I'd seen this feedback before and it's always at the back of my mind when I see "Hagon".... They might have sold tons over the years but failures like this could be very serious indeed...

I'd used them on Brit bikes for years. No problem what so ever but the design of the top mount on the Mono shock is a weak spot (you can see how thin it is).

I had to submit a picture of the bike when I sent the shock back. Hagon won't honour any failures if the bike looks like it's been used off road.

I have the Hagon fitted to my PD at the minute after a Wilbers shock gave up the ghost. I'm not comfortable with it at all though and need a replacement for peace of mind.

The one in the picture failed while braking for an island after a 70Mph run. The back end seemed to ride while braking and then dropped significantly when I released the brake, fortunately the shock wedged in the frame tube under the shock mount and stopped the back end dropping onto the wheel. It made for a scarey maneuver round the island though.

Another one from Advrider. 1100GS this time.

Progressive units have their faults as well

 

[Devon]

I have a Bi-Turbo shock fitted to my Mystic. Never heard of them before but it seems to be a decent bit of Kit. Anyone know much about the brand?

 

[dr nosh]

Interestingly, I am also looking at replacing the rear shock on my R80ST.

Doesn't seem to ride to badly, but when pushing it off the centre stand or manouvering about the rear seems very 'soft'.

I expect that when I fit a new shock, I'll then realise that the handling was really carp.

So, potentials:

1. Standard fare from Mbins, Mworks, James Sherlock.

2. The Niton offering looks interesting. Will request a quote.

3. Ohlins? Pricey at £600 odd +VAT

Called into FTR Suspension in Bury St Edmunds today. Ohlins supplier. In the catalogue the ST was not actually listed but the 80 G/S was listed. Eye to eye centres quoted as 361mm.

Anybody - Is this the same dimension as the shock for the 80ST?

Also, looking at the shock as currently fitted, (probably the original BMW shock, or a Mbins part), the tyre seems very close to the spring. Did not measure but will do.

I rebuilt the wheels a while back. Did I get the hub/rim offset incorrect?

Anybody - What is the hub/rim offset, measured from the machined brake lining face?

 

[Wrigsby1]

Interestingly, I am also looking at replacing the rear shock on my R80ST.

Doesn't seem to ride to badly, but when pushing it off the centre stand or manouvering about the rear seems very 'soft'.

I expect that when I fit a new shock, I'll then realise that the handling was really carp.

So, potentials:

1. Standard fare from Mbins, Mworks, James Sherlock.

2. The Niton offering looks interesting. Will request a quote.

3. Ohlins? Pricey at £600 odd +VAT

Called into FTR Suspension in Bury St Edmunds today. Ohlins supplier. In the catalogue the ST was not actually listed but the 80 G/S was listed. Eye to eye centres quoted as 361mm.

Anybody - Is this the same dimension as the shock for the 80ST?

Also, looking at the shock as currently fitted, (probably the original BMW shock, or a Mbins part), the tyre seems very close to the spring. Did not measure but will do.

I rebuilt the wheels a while back. Did I get the hub/rim offset incorrect?

Anybody - What is the hub/rim offset, measured from the machined brake lining face?

Firm suspension for firmness sake is severely overrated... A shock should be set to the bikes and to your rising style and i like to back my rear shocks off to the most supple that the bike will handle and then firm it up as necessary... Also worth remembering that a good shock will have a balance between pre-load, bump and rebound damping...

If someone is unsure about what they are "feeling" through the shock when they are riding or what the adjustments are doing then it's worth having a work through in your head before spending ££££'s... I find that most standard shocks reach their limits or start running out of damping when they are pushed pretty hard or loaded up... Also if you spend £££'s on uprating the back then you will probably have to address the weediness of the front also to balance it up...

 

[Canuck]

The st was shorter but unfortunately mine are in a container somewhere over the atlantic otherwise id measure it for you.