RTFM

[GrinningGSer]

After nearly two months of ownership and after suffering ABS failure warning lights. I decided that it was time to RTFM
There's lots on this WC malarkey that's not intuitive.
I've just learned that the throttle has another position, beyond idle, so as to cancel cruise: NOT EASY to feel

 

[Fanum]

There's something repellent about a motorcycle that you have to read the manual on (for how to use it I mean, not looking up what plugs and oil it needs or that sort of stuff) for me

 

[GrinningGSer]

Agree, you should try and figure out the lights on this LED machine: I've read the manual now and I STILL don't understand it

 

[WindyChuffer]

Yes agreed about the lights. I found it best to switch driving light to manual so you are in control. Otherwise the lights have a satanic mind of their own. Its a case of RTFM to do that sadly.

Oh and the turning the throttle beyond idle is a brill way to cancel the cruise - I found it by accident.

There's something repellent about a motorcycle that you have to read the manual on (for how to use it I mean, not looking up what plugs and oil it needs or that sort of stuff) for me

Stick a computer on anything, and the chances are it'll need a manual sadly.

 

[Fanum]

Stick a computer on anything, and the chances are it'll need a manual sadly.

Disagree.......

There are plenty of devices with computers that have intuitive interfaces, it just needs to be well thought out and user-friendly.

Honestly, how hard can it be on a bloody motorcycle?

If there's a feature which can't be made intuitive, then that feature is not really needed, QED.

 

[WindyChuffer]

I agree with your sentiments. However the UI is normally done badly, resulting in manuals which are also often bad too.

 

[Nick V]

Yes agreed about the lights. I found it best to switch driving light to manual so you are in control. Otherwise the lights have a satanic mind of their own. Its a case of RTFM to do that sadly.

My personal solution to this for daytime running is:

1. Set the daytime running light switchover to 'manual'.
2. When starting the bike, press the DRL button until the green DRL icon goes out (this switches the DRL to half-brightness, while activating the dipped beam). To force dipped-beam activation, briefly flash the brights.
3. Turn on the high beams.

Luckily, we have no regulation that forbids the use of high beams during the day. I understand that this is not the case in the UK?

I agree with your sentiments. However the UI is normally done badly, resulting in manuals which are also often bad too.

The saddest thing is that the UI is normally finalised by committee. The idea behind headlight modes switching automatically is brilliant - but the execution is flawed.
Luckily, you do have the option to go manual.

 

[Bigtrucknuts]

WTF

What a strange comment to make.

There's something repellent about a motorcycle that you have to read the manual on.

There is a solution to that it's called a Suzuki 1200 Bandit. A perfectly good motorbike with absolutly no reading required. Enjoy.

 

[Nick V]

What a strange comment to make.

There's something repellent about a motorcycle that you have to read the manual on.

There is a solution to that it's called a Suzuki 1200 Bandit. A perfectly good motorbike with absolutly no reading required. Enjoy.

I've owned a Bandit 400V, and have ridden both the oil-cooled and water-cooled Bandit 1200. It's a good bike, but not for me.

If there's something repellent about a motorcycle you have to read the manual in order to ride, I'm afraid the situation's only going to get worse as the years roll by...

Funnily enough, I've never heard any fighter pilots complain about having to read the manuals when transitioning to new aircraft.

 

[GrinningGSer]

I'm enjoying the complexity of the big boys toys on this bike. My achievement today is a HUGE mph display on the NavV. This bike has a surprise for every ride.

 

[Sgt Bilco]

There is a solution to that it's called a Suzuki 1200 Bandit.

You are obviously on some very high powered mind warping drugs

 

[mrtee43]

Well, I for one didn't know about the cruise control cancelling trick of twisting the throttle beyond idle to cancel, and yes it works . Another thing I found that I didn't
know about is that if you turn off the ignition, then push the indicator switch to the left then the parking lights will come on and stay on until you switch on/off the ignition.

Any more tips ?

 

[Montydoesdallas]

You think you have problems.....i still can't work out how to change the clock time !

 

[notadrop]

You think you have problems.....i still can't work out how to change the clock time !

LUXURY.....I can't work my garage remote to get to the bike.

 

[GrinningGSer]

Well, I for one didn't know about the cruise control cancelling trick of twisting the throttle

I find it useful but prefer pulling the clutch for smoothness. I am in awe of the cruise on these bikes, I've used mechanical cruise locks on previous bikes but this system is so useable.

 

[Clifton]

I find it useful but prefer pulling the clutch for smoothness. I am in awe of the cruise on these bikes, I've used mechanical cruise locks on previous bikes but this system is so useable.

After a little practice one is able to cancel cruise without any change in rpm or jerk by rolling the throttle forward while pulling in the clutch.

I'm not sure I want to change it but I'd like to know how? My question is how to change the default setting from DRL to low beam? After seeing it mentioned here I read and re-read the manual and don't see anything pertaining to this. Yesterday I saw a 2014 RT coming toward me and to be honest it didn't stand out at all, heck the twin headlights looked like candles they were so dim. For now on my GSA I just leave the auxiliary lights on for conspicuity.

 

[Nick V]

After a little practice one is able to cancel cruise without any change in rpm or jerk by rolling the throttle forward while pulling in the clutch.

I'm not sure I want to change it but I'd like to know how? My question is how to change the default setting from DRL to low beam? After seeing it mentioned here I read and re-read the manual and don't see anything pertaining to this. Yesterday I saw a 2014 RT coming toward me and to be honest it didn't stand out at all, heck the twin headlights looked like candles they were so dim. For now on my GSA I just leave the auxiliary lights on for conspicuity.

1. Press the TRIP button until the display reads ‘SETUP ENTER’.
2. Press and hold the TRIP button until the first setup item is reached.
3. Continue pressing the TRIP button until the display reads ‘SETUP DLIGHT AUTO'
4. Press the INFO button to select ON (headlight cluster automatically switches between the daytime running light under daylight conditions, and the dipped beam under low light conditions) or OFF (transition between daytime running light and dipped beam must be manually selected by the rider, using the daytime running light button).
5. Press and hold the TRIP button until the display reverts to ‘SETUP ENTER’.

If, when starting the bike with the DRL in 'dipped beam' mode and the hedlights will not switch to dipped beam, you can force the transition by briefly flashing the high beam.

 

[Clifton]

Thank you Nick!

 

[Nutty]

1. Press the TRIP button until the display reads ‘SETUP ENTER’.
2. Press and hold the TRIP button until the first setup item is reached.
3. Continue pressing the TRIP button until the display reads ‘SETUP DLIGHT AUTO'
4. Press the INFO button to select ON (headlight cluster automatically switches between the daytime running light under daylight conditions, and the dipped beam under low light conditions) or OFF (transition between daytime running light and dipped beam must be manually selected by the rider, using the daytime running light button).
5. Press and hold the TRIP button until the display reverts to ‘SETUP ENTER’.

If, when starting the bike with the DRL in 'dipped beam' mode and the hedlights will not switch to dipped beam, you can force the transition by briefly flashing the high beam.

If you have the BMW aux lights, will they also come on automatically, or do you have to switch them on manually every time you turn the bike on?

 

[Nick V]

Thank you Nick!

My pleasure!

If you have the BMW aux lights, will they also come on automatically, or do you have to switch them on manually every time you turn the bike on?

I'm not sure. I formulated the instructions I gave by playing with my bike's controls. RSA-market bikes are so highly specced that we don't get the 'standard' light cluster unless the buyer deliberately 'downgrades' the bike when ordering it.
The way I understand what the manual says, the auxiliary light should not work in tandem with the dipped beam - so when one is on, the other will be off.

If the behaviour of the 'standard' light cluster follows the same pattern as the LED light cluster, then the 'DRL active' light on the display should signify that the auxiliary light is active. This means the dipped beam will be inactive.
If the 'DRL active' light is out, the reverse should be true.