Running In latest advice..new triple black saturday

[quorngeordie]

happy bunny looking forward to saturday ...wor lasses ma and pa arrive same day ...think i'll be out playing with the new babe
Anyway i'd just like your advice on running in..read previous thread regarding same issue about running it in hard to cut its teeth

Whats the latest advice for you knowledgeable ones out there? cheers in advance

 

[jwpzx9r]

I read an artical on the Horizons unlimited HUBB that you should rip the baws of it for the first 20 miles or so than change the oil There was a link to a website that tunes race engines and it had a lot of evidence to support the claim that the engine was tighter in the bores after this method and that the engines run in this way ultimately made more power! I don't know what BMW would think about that though

 

[Pukmeister]

There's nowt that's flat, round or square.

 

[Schtum]

I read an artical on the Horizons unlimited HUBB that you should rip the baws of it for the first 20 miles or so than change the oil There was a link to a website that tunes race engines and it had a lot of evidence to support the claim that the engine was tighter in the bores after this method and that the engines run in this way ultimately made more power! I don't know what BMW would think about that though

That's probably true in the short term but you might want to ask questions about for how long they make more power and what their long term reliability is like.

It's certainly the way to run in race engines but for an engine that you hope will run reliably for a number of years and tens of thousands of miles.....

The point's well made in order to achieve a good gas seal twixt piston ring and bore early in the engine's life but if you read the current BMW guidelines on running in, you might be surprised at just how aggressive they are.

 

[jwpzx9r]

That's probably true in the short term but you might want to ask questions about for how long they make more power and what their long term reliability is like.

It's certainly the way to run in race engines but for an engine that you hope will run reliably for a number of years and tens of thousands of miles.....

The guy suggesting this method, although a race engineer, suggested that the most imoprtant part of a modern motor to run in was the bores! He reckoned that the tolerances in modern engines does not require running in and there are no high spots for example on the crank journals that actually contact the bearings because of the higher strenghth of the oil film pumped into the journals. He reckoned if any metal was going to come off (and it would in his opinion) it would come off the bores and the only way to do this properly was to rev the nackers off it for 10-15 mins then let it cool down completely stone cold and do the same thing again then change the oil and filter. If this was not done in his opinion it would lead to bore glazing and blow by the rings and power loss. After this run as you would.

 

[Nobbyspiles]

I read an artical on the Horizons unlimited HUBB that you should rip the baws of it for the first 20 miles or so than change the oil There was a link to a website that tunes race engines and it had a lot of evidence to support the claim that the engine was tighter in the bores after this method and that the engines run in this way ultimately made more power! I don't know what BMW would think about that though

I can vouch for this method, new bike in March '07 and wrung it's neck occasionally during the first 100 miles, up through the gears, hard acceleration uphill in higher gears, making the engine work, but not all the time.
Beds the rings into the cylinder walls. The theory is that the extra power generated in the cylinder forces the rings to bite into the walls, creating a more efficient seal. Oil/filter was changed after 100 miles then just rode away as normal. The bike did 18k in 18months and never used a drop of oil. Sold it a few years ago, bike is still only a few miles away from me. Guy has now 28K on it and no trouble at all. Only thing ever let me down was the final drive.

 

[Blackal]

Does that advice apply to the Tripple Black, though?

Al

 

[jwpzx9r]

Does that advice apply to the Tripple Black, though?

Al

Ha Ha! That's the 64k $ question Al easy making suggestions when it aint your motor that's being thrashed. But the engineer making the point knows his stuff and is positive this is the way to do it. He also says there is no loss of engine reliablity on motors he has run in this way! Would I do it with my new bike.... Hmm its like a leap of faith init

 

[Sleepy]

The Triple Black.. or TB as those in the know call them... should be run in at night for the first three weeks.

This is to enable the special TB paint to cure to the correct level of Blackness.

Not many people know this...

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Dunno how to run in a TB, my GS is red, sorry.

Andres

 

[FERRET]

I ran my 2010 (twin cam) GSA in as per the hanbook, which seemed quite aggresive, its now on 18000 miles and i havnt had to add a drop of oil between services (unusual for a BMW in my experience) and seems to go well

 

[Comfy Old Boots]

The Triple Black.. or TB as those in the know call them... should be run in at night for the first three weeks.

This is to enable the special TB paint to cure to the correct level of Blackness.

Not many people know this...

Lol here!

 

[148stu]

Ride as normal, dont pussy about, the worse thing you can do is potter about without revving it above 3k, that'll defo glaze the bores, likewise dont sit with it on the redline ....

I'll be going through the same routine next week

 

[ihandyman247]

happy bunny looking forward to saturday ...wor lasses ma and pa arrive same day ...think i'll be out playing with the new babe
Anyway i'd just like your advice on running in..read previous thread regarding same issue about running it in hard to cut its teeth

Whats the latest advice for you knowledgeable ones out there? cheers in advance

Look , just ride the bike like for yourself !
There is not a running in proces , is all a big bull sh@t , I had 2 GSA and never need it any one's advice on how to brake them in , just take it easy and look over your sholder,look after your bike and she will look after you , regular service and religios maintenance is very important . This is a engine not a horse !

 

[Alan R]

Not a direct answer to your query but I run my bikes in following the advice here. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
2008 GS 13500 miles, NEVER uses oil and the engine is quiet, loose and free revving - for a boxer anyway.
Alan R

This has been asked before. I've done what this bloke says with loads of new bikes including the above mentioned 2008 GS and my 2012 GS. The results are smooth running engines that don't use oil.
Alan R

 

[ihandyman247]

This has been asked before. I've done what this bloke says with loads of new bikes including the above mentioned 2008 GS and my 2012 GS. The results are smooth running engines that don't use oil.
Alan R

Yep
The Americans always wants to be a spet forward what's next !
A good bike should use oil !! That how is stays lubricated ! The more the better!

 

[148stu]

Hmmmm If they're using a lot of oil then they aren't making the best compression...which means down on power and torque..

 

[duckspeed]

Running in oil

I still believe there is a need for running in oil,(Ohh no another oil thread) the engine cannot bed in correctly if the first oil is too good. 600 miles with shit oil then change oil and filter, job done.

 

[Nutty]

Ride it normally. DON'T redline it; there's enough torque there, so you don't need to redline it. Try and avoid motorways if you can. Vary the revs as much as you can. But run it through the gears, and don't molly coddle it.

 

[Edventure]

This has been asked before. I've done what this bloke says with loads of new bikes including the above mentioned 2008 GS and my 2012 GS. The results are smooth running engines that don't use oil.
Alan R

+1, 4 BMWs all run in hard the Motorman way and none of them used any oil.

At the end of the day it's your call, they'll be loads of people saying run it in by the book