Running light effectiveness

[wadham]

How do you feel riding with just the Led running light on instead of having a dipped headlight.

Anyone feels they are less visible and getting more 'near misses' than before.

It is very bright and seems to be fine for me.

Just a thought for a discussion.

 

[telbenj]

its very bright

How do you feel riding with just the Led running light on instead of having a dipped headlight.

Anyone feels they are less visible and getting more 'near misses' than before.

It is very bright and seems to be fine for me.

Just a thought for a discussion.

I think it is ok its very bright so is easily seen

 

[gsman1]

I think it is ok its very bright so is easily seen

I run with dipped beam and LED spots, as I find in bright sunlight LED not so effective.It is brilliant in lower light conditions.

 

[wheelnut]

Don't worry about it.

You could light yourself up like a christmas tree and it wouldn't make the first bit of difference.

If you're concerned how bright it is during the day then I suspect you're putting a bit too much misplaced faith in it making a difference.

 

[Eunuch]

I've just come back from an Alps tour and 2 different people on bikes said how bright the LED running light was.

I did wonder myself but seems there is no need to worry

 

[telbenj]

thats true

Don't worry about it.

You could light yourself up like a christmas tree and it wouldn't make the first bit of difference.

If you're concerned how bright it is during the day then I suspect you're putting a bit too much misplaced faith in it making a difference.

Yep that's my philosophy, treat all car drivers as being out to get you. no matter how visible you make yourself, they will say Sorry mate didn't see you.

Terry

 

[DING-DONG]

I think the led is very eye catching, i often notice gs bikes with the led light on the opposite 4-lane carriage way as they clearly stand out. But will it save your bacon to stop some coffin dodger pulling out on ya i doubt it. That led headlight is about £800 to replace so I'm told.

 

[Deleted account 181015003]

People pull out in front of trucks so a light is not going to make then see you eye contact is the key

 

[SMB]

I run with the led running light together with two of Les's HID micro DL fog lights. That seems to work well for me.
SMB

 

[Perspicacious]

Evidence?

Is there any evidence that LEDs, daytime head lights or bright coloured clothing actually make any difference to reduce the incidence of motorcycle crashes? If the evidence exists, I might care.

At the moment I run the LED daytime light only because it looks cool. I am fickle and easily impressed: ooooooooooh, shiny!

 

[alp]

Is there any evidence that LEDs, daytime head lights or bright coloured clothing actually make any difference to reduce the incidence of motorcycle crashes? If the evidence exists, I might care.

I often wonder about this visibility thing, especially when you're riding in Europe and you see the police riding in dull blue outfits compared to our guys and their bikes in dayglo. When I'm in my car the bikes which stand out in traffic are usually noisy Harleys especially when they're filtering up behind you.

 

[wheelnut]

Is there any evidence that LEDs, daytime head lights or bright coloured clothing actually make any difference to reduce the incidence of motorcycle crashes? If the evidence exists, I might care.
!

Not really. There was a study done in new zealand which, on the surface of it indicates that bright clothing can be of benefit but the more you delve into that study, the more flawed it is.

Being seen or not is more to do with what the driver is expecting to see. Probably the most up to date study was done by martin langham (google the study if ya like).

In some cases, it can have a detrimental effect, especially if the rider believes the measures he's taken to be seen actually make a difference.

 

[The Grey One]

I think the led is very eye catching, i often notice gs bikes with the led light on the opposite 4-lane carriage way as they clearly stand out. But will it save your bacon to stop some coffin dodger pulling out on ya i doubt it. That led headlight is about £800 to replace so I'm told.

That's a bit ageist- the only "sorry mate I did not see you" we have had here so far this summer was an 18 year old driver.

John

 

[PvtVoytek]

I find a well mounted laser pen works well. Satisfies the B.O.B. urges anyway. :screwy:

 

[tony23]

There is a school of thought, which I personally agree with, that basically states that theres so much lime green hi-viz about these days that our eyes have become so used to it , it no longer has the impact it used to have.

Was in Asda Saturday and the shelf stackers were wearing hi-viz waistcoats at 11 am. indoors ffs maybe they expected to be mown down by runaway trolliies

 

[Flipfly]

I often wonder about this visibility thing, especially when you're riding in Europe and you see the police riding in dull blue outfits compared to our guys and their bikes in dayglo. When I'm in my car the bikes which stand out in traffic are usually noisy Harleys especially when they're filtering up behind you.

Loud pipes aren't as effective as lights imho. You might hear them in traffic, but if the bike was coming down the road at you and your sat in the box on wheels with the radio on (doesn't have to be loud), you'll hear the bike too late for his noise to do have had any impact on your decision to pull out or not. Lights are visible for a great distance as long as you are looking in the direction of them. It still might make bugger all difference to your decision to pull out, but you should see them if you look before you pull out.

I drive 40k+ miles a year in a car. I see bikes coming past, but usually only hear them as they pass once on the move.

 

[Roberto]

With more and more cars sporting daytime running lights now, for me I think LED, HID, Spots, whatever, in any traffic you'll just blend in

 

[bellyboy]

mmm Im stuck on this one,, I have had an increase in people nearly pulling out in front of me but then suddenly breaking as they see me... or just as I was about to or had taken avoiding action..

so is ... is that due to the light they saw me just in time or didn't notice me??

or maybe im just riding like a knob more,, on my GS with its LC attitude,,