Safety in Portugal?

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Having done 7 longish trips in the last few years (Spain, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, etc), we are doing a circuit of Portugal later this year.
However, we have just heard about some violent gang activity, I think near the Algarve, where unprovoked murders have occurred.
Can anyone else shed any light on this? Are there any areas to be avoided, will bikes be safe outside a hotel?
Thanks very much in advance.
Cheers,
Michael.
 
Think you may find Portugal a lot safer than Glasgow Manchester London etc :thumb2
The foriegn office can't exactly say not to go anywhere in your own country.

Gloucster is a lot safer now that Fred West is dead apparently.

THREATS TO SAFETY AND SECURITY: Portugal remains largely free of terrorist incidents; however, like other countries in the Schengen area, Portugal’s open borders with its Western European neighbors allow possible terrorist groups to enter and exit the country with anonymity. U.S. citizens are reminded to remain vigilant with regard to their personal security.

Brief general strikes and public protests by public sector employees, industrial workers and/or university student groups take place with some frequency, but are usually publicized in advance and are rarely violent. Travelers are advised to avoid taking part in these public protests.

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CRIME: Portugal has a relatively low rate of violent crime; however, crime in all categories is steadily increasing. Your greatest crime risk is becoming a target of pickpockets and purse snatchers, particularly at popular tourist sites and restaurants, or on public transportation. Rental cars and vehicles with out-of-town or foreign license plates are frequent targets for break-ins. You should always remove visible luggage or personal items from cars when parking, especially near popular tourist sites. The Embassy has learned of some cases where travelers discover a flat tire and someone immediately volunteers to assist. Capitalizing on the distraction, an accomplice meanwhile steals valuables from the vehicle. Keep your car doors locked when stopped at intersections. You should also avoid using automatic teller machines (ATMs) in isolated or poorly lighted areas. In general, visitors to Portugal should carry limited cash and credit cards on their person, and leave extra cash, credit cards, and personal documents at home or in a hotel safe. While thieves may operate anywhere, the U.S. Embassy receives most reports of theft from the following areas:

Lisbon: Pick pocketing and purse snatchings in the Lisbon area are most likely to occur in buses, hotel lobbies, restaurants, the airport, trains, train stations, and trams, especially onboard tram number 28 to the Castle of São Jorge. At restaurants, items that hang over the backs of chairs or placed on the floor are particularly vulnerable. Unattended luggage can be stolen at the Lisbon Airport. You should take special care in the Oriente, Santa Apolonia, and Rossio train stations, the Alfama and Bairro Alto districts, the Castle of São Jorge, and the tourist area of Belém.

Outside Lisbon: Thefts have been reported in the popular tourist destination towns of Sintra, Cascais, Mafra, and Fatima, and in the Algarve. Automobile break-ins sometimes occur in parking areas at tourist attractions and near restaurants. You should take special care when parking at the Moorish Castle and Pena Palace in Sintra, and at the beachfront areas of Guincho, Cabo da Roca, and Boca do Inferno. We have received reports that vacation homes have been robbed in the Algarve. When renting vacation lodging, make sure to assess the accommodation’s security systems.

Madeira: Pick pocketing, while infrequent, may occur in the Old Town and Santa Catarina Park areas of Funchal.

Trains: Public transportation is considered safe and reliable; however, during the summer months, we occasionally receive reports of youth gangs accosting passengers riding trains between Lisbon, Cascais, and Sintra. The authorities have increased their patrols in response to these incidents.

Beaches: Beaches are considered generally safe, but beachgoers should not leave their personal belongings unattended. Youth gangs have been known to congregate along the beaches between Lisbon and Cascais and occasionally accost beach goers. The authorities have increased their patrols in response to these incidences.

Don’t buy counterfeit and pirated goods, even if they are widely available. Not only are the bootlegs illegal to bring back into the United States, if you purchase them you may also be breaking local law.

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Gomez has just completed a 7+k tour of Europe on his own and spent nearly 2 weeks in Portugal 6 of them in Portimao. He had no problems being followed, watched and his bike was safe in the hotel car parks. He saw no problems at all.

He travelled from north to south on inland B type roads, stopping where and when he wanted.

Enjoy your trip, I would say there are more places in the UK I choose NOT to visit unlike Portugal.


Morticia :beerjug:
 
Morticia and HRH - thanks very much for the info.
Cheers, Michael.
 
Had a great time in Portugal, they seemed very pro-Brit' to me. They love bikes too.

:beerjug:
 
I've recently come back from a 2 week biking holiday riding throughout Portugal on dirt tracks and minor roads as far south as the Algarve region. Everywhere the group and I went, we were made to feel very welcome. I was surprised at the amount of English that was spoken by the locals. One of the guys I was with, who was riding a Triumph, broke down near Lisbon. We towed the bike to the Triumph dealer in Lisbon and they were very helpful in getting it fixed.

Thoroughly recommend Portugal. :thumb2
 
Was in taveria 2 weeks ago stag do, golf and hog rally no problems although there was a shooting in the local brass house where someone didn't pay the bill so the Russian owned place shot the punter and the girl :eek:
 
A group of four of did the trails in the top half of Portugal a week ago and had or saw no problems.

We didn't make it as far as the coast, so van't comment on that.
Cheers, Piggers
 
In the news today:

Liverpool - Racist banners hung over motorway

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-13734065


East Sussex - Two jailed over murder of waiter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13735251

West Yorkshire - Murder charge after Huddersfield woman stabbed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-13734169

Leicestershire - Three arrests after Leicester body find

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-13733606

Sussex again - Three jailed over Crawley doorstep shooting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13734542

Shropshire - Shrewsbury murderer Robin Ligus 'admitted other killings'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-13720714

Staffordshire - Sheila Jones in court over murder of Daisy Myring, 92

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13729917

Devon - Devon murder accused had 'Jekyll and Hyde personality'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-13729771

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I think it's safer if you go to Portugal :comfort
 
The most dangerous thing about Portugal is the Government. They are the biggest culprits of theft. After having a house there and luckily selling it last year, I can say that there is little crime. The major crime would be from immigrants in the tourist areas and it is usually house theft and pickpockets. Do not stick to the coast. Make sure you travel inland. I lived dead centre in the foothills of the mountains. If you want twisty mountain roads with new tarmac, or off road without being too professional, give that area a try.
For somewhere to stay, check out this hotel.
www.quintadageia.com. Biker friendly and now with new steam room and sauna apparently. Rates are not bad for what you get.
 
Thank you all very much for your input.
I had always assumed Portugal to be safe, but was disquietened by stories of gangs in the Algarve.
Suitably reassured, we can't wait for the off.
Thanks again.
Cheers, Michael.
 


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