Security ideas

[MerrickCampbell]

So a friend has just had his brand new 2015MY nicked. Parked in West London early evening and only used steering lock whilst he left the bike unattended for about hf an hour! Really bad luck I'd say but then I am rarely in London or even the outer boroughs so maybe I just don't know what you guys have to put up with. I know most times he would chain to a lamppost of course. So doubly bad luck.
I would like some security ideas and particularly ones for use on short stay stops and perhaps in areas like out in the sticks where the risks I imagine are lower. I particularly just want to stop the easy wheeling away of the bike. I don't want to rely on carrying a heavy/long chain and the need to find a lamppost.
So far I have thought of a disk lock on front and rear wheels to stop wheeling away. I thought that if one could rely on a steering lock the bike could only be wheeled round in circles but that isn't something that can be relied on. So any ideas please as I am now suddenly much more aware of the problem. Fxxxng scumbags these bastards are

 

[Dahoum]

Wheeling away ain't the problem

Three blokes lifting it into the back of a van is the problem.

Hence the best deterrent is a fuck off chain attached to a firm piece of street furniture.

Whats a 2015MY ??

 

[MerrickCampbell]

Wheeling away ain't the problem

Three blokes lifting it into the back of a van is the problem.

Hence the best deterrent is a fuck off chain attached to a firm piece of street furniture.

Whats a 2015MY ??

I do realise the problem of the bike being lifted into a van! But I was looking for other ideas as well as the big chain and street furniture solution! Sorry if I didn't make my post clear enough. When stopping for just a very short while it isn't always possible/realistic to take the same measures that you would take if you were parking for the day or for overnight.
My mates 2015 model year GSlc is what I meant to say. Fxxxing bad luck for anybody to have thier bike nicked of course but I thought especially bad luck for him! A few weeks old and maybe only 1000 miles or so. I have now the same bike but only since 2nd March so feeling extra sensitive to the whole security issue!

 

[JJH]

Ok my idea is to make 2 eyes/holes/lugs that line up when centre stand is down so that a lock can be passed trough and thus lock the stand down. It would not stop the bastards lifting the bike into van but it would make it more difficult. It's a pet idea of mine which has knocked around in my head for a long time. JJH

 

[MikeO]

Ok my idea is to make 2 eyes/holes/lugs that line up when centre stand is down so that a lock can be passed trough and thus lock the stand down. It would not stop the bastards lifting the bike into van but it would make it more difficult. It's a pet idea of mine which has knocked around in my head for a long time. JJH

4 blokes, pick axe handle through the front wheel, same through the back, straight into van - gone in under a minute...

 

[JJH]

I agree with you. It's a pity that there doesn't seem to be an viable alternative to lugging a chain around with you. Alarms are useless. Yes they make noise- that is ignored by everyone which means that they are next to useless. JJH

 

[tanneman]

Ask Fluffmeister about these. He has one connected to a PDM60.

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/394239-wiring-Road-Angel-BIke-Trac-to-2014-1200gs

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showth...fitted-along-with-PDM60?p=4038539#post4038539

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

One of these:

or

1. Almax Series III Chain + Squire SS65CS Flagship Stronghold Lock + Hardie Ground Anchor (if it's you home) - Get the whole lot here for £210
2. Pragmasis Anti-Pinch Pin
3. BMW OEM Alarm & Immobiliser
3. BikeTrac
4. Rain Cover - out of sight is out of mind

 

[Matty589]

I'd say 1. Out of sight. If they can't see it they can't nick it!
If it has to be on the street a cover will help - especially if it's an old and nondescript cover. Doesn't help you if the thieves are watching you though!
A bike is only secure when you can't move it. A chain through the back wheel only stops it being wheeled away. As has been said above 4 blokes and a van and it'll be gone. It's a £15K easy steal!

 

[RedRick Esq.]

If all you are going to do is put a chain through the back or front wheel without something to fasten it to then you might as well just use a disc lock !

As has been said if it aint locked securely to something immovable then it can easily be nicked.

If some thieving bastards want your bike they will get it regardless of anything you do. I am well aware that even my almax chain Squire lock and pragnmasis ground anchor within a locked and alarmed garage would only bea deterrent to the dedicated and TBH if they rock up 4 handed with the kit to take it I am probably not going to intervenr personally !

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

It should go without saying that you should try and chain to to something solid - ideally chain off the ground.

 

[rivercatch]

Lock & chain to prevent the opportunist wheeling it away.
Tracker to aid recovery if it is taken.
park under CCTV if possible. For some reason parking in the City feels much safer than parking in the West End because of the security theatre - don't know if stats bear that out though.

My story:
I was woken at 2am in April last by strange noises. I live in Fulham in a row of terraced houses. My 2013 model was parked right outside my house under a bright street lamp (you can read a book easily). It had a D lock through the front wheel but not chained to anything. The noise must have subliminal because I went from deep sleep to wide awake and at the window in fractions of a second. I saw two blokes just finish loading my bike into a white van. I opened the door to the notional balcony and was out there bollock naked shouting 'f*** off'. They calmly shut the rear doors on the van, got in the driver and passenger side, and drove off. I immediately called 999 on the landline and reported it. The tracker firm called me as I finished that call to say there was a movement. I was able to give them the 999 call ref, and they said that they would start tracking and notify the police. This was all done by 2.05. At 2.20 the local police arrived and took some more details. As they were there they got a message that the bike had been located by the tracker in a local street. A few minutes later another message that the bike was parked on the street. The police at my house then drove me and the keys to where the bike was. I confirmed it was mine - it was parked in a resident as neat as anything. The police then asked to recover it to their pound for fingerprinting, which I agreed.

There was a more senior officer there. I got the impression that they had hoped to use the tracker to locate the van and catch them red-handed. He said that cars and bikes were often stolen and parked up for a day or two to see if they had a tracker. He seemed to imply if I hadn't let them know I had spotted them they would have dumped it further away but because of that they had dumped it almost immediately.

More recently I let the battery go flat and had to push the bike from the street to the side parking area - about 10 metres. the tracking company called me again within 2 minutes or less.

This is a BikeTrac fitted by the dealer on purchase.

 

[(RIP) Miff]

If only these bikes had some sort of box you could attach to the bike, to enable your mate to carry a large chain and lock..

 

[Deleted account 200123001]

Really bad luck I'd say

Spotted riding about then followed I'd say, gone within 5 minutes of him leaving the bike I reckon.

If there is one thing that is fairly certain with bikes in a city is that they are going to be parked up at some point soon...if I was a bike thief into nicking newish bikes to sell the bits for I'd just wait near a busy road and watch what goes by....just sayin'....

 

[tecman]

So far I have thought of a disk lock on front and rear wheels to stop wheeling away. I thought that if one could rely on a steering lock the bike could only be wheeled round in circles but that isn't something that can be relied on. So any ideas please as I am now suddenly much more aware of the problem. Fxxxng scumbags these bastards are

If bike is not anchored to imovable object, then steering lock won't help as per video below. They just use sheer force to break steering lock and then riding away with help of scooter which is propelling it to safe place! Bastards!

Using disc lock would have helped, unless someone comes with Van.

 

[JJH]

Anything that makes it more difficult is a help. One should look at the bigger picture. Whare are all the parts going? JJH

 

[madmechanic]

JJH has a good idea about the centre stand somehow being locked in the down position , ok two pick axe handles and four blokes could lift it into a van but it will make it hard work and would look obvious to anybody seeing it that they were stealing it.
When I have been on a ferry with the bike on the centre stand I tied a small rope from the stand through the front wheel to stop the bike going forward and rolling off the stand.
Any Idea is to some degree is good but as someone said if they want it they will take it and even trackers have there flaws .
Good insurance and some luck are the only answer ?????.

 

[JJH]

JJH has a good idea about the centre stand somehow being locked in the down position , ok two pick axe handles and four blokes could lift it into a van but it will make it hard work and would look obvious to anybody seeing it that they were stealing it.
When I have been on a ferry with the bike on the centre stand I tied a small rope from the stand through the front wheel to stop the bike going forward and rolling off the stand.
Any Idea is to some degree is good but as someone said if they want it they will take it and even trackers have there flaws .
Good insurance and some luck are the only answer ?????.

thank you my friend JJH

 

[MerrickCampbell]

thank you my friend JJH

I just want to say thanks too. I wanted to collect ideas for all alternatives except the chaining to a lamppost but of course it now seems that I'm going to put a little tail pack strapped tight to the pillion seat and lug a chain around with me. Anyway thanks for the replies and especially to JJH. I'm going to get my thinking cap on too about the centre stand idea. Cheers. Merrick

 

[richardbd]

Ok my idea is to make 2 eyes/holes/lugs that line up when centre stand is down so that a lock can be passed trough and thus lock the stand down. It would not stop the bastards lifting the bike into van but it would make it more difficult. It's a pet idea of mine which has knocked around in my head for a long time. JJH

Don't want to rain on your parade - but does that do anything a disc lock doesn't?