Security options for dry bag on pillion seat?

richmondrider

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Hi Guys,

Went to The Adventure Bike shop on Sunday and picked up the Redverz Atacama and a few other pieces, along with a nice SW Motech bag to put all the gear in.

So I now have a bag secured over the pillion seat which also acts as a great back rest! My question is, what security options are tried and tested to stop the opportunist?

I guess it’s a balance of finding something that does the job but doesn’t send a message it’s a bag full of gold bars (which it isn't as I spent them all in the shop!!)

Cheers
 
Secure the bags to the bike with a cable n lock, hide the cable as much as possible, would stop a grab n run but not a determined theft.
 
Pacsafe do some netting/cables that are ok for deterring opportunists. Having said that I've never used more than a couple of Rokstraps and have, so far, never had an issue in thousands of miles of travelling on a bike.

Andres
 
I used to use a Pacsafe cable thingy but soon grew tired of the hassle of using it. Maybe it’s worth it if you’re planning to leave your fully loaded bike parked up in big cities for hours on end, but otherwise I don’t really think it’s necessary and haven’t had any problems, touch wood. I tend to only have what’s fairly obviously just essential camping stuff strapped on the back though, and you’d have to be a monumental arsehole to steal something like that. Anything small/valuable gets locked in a pannier.
 
Theiving oiks everywhere, more so now with permeable EU borders letting thousands of religious nutters/Romanians/Albanians/ into our country.
All in the name of diversity heh?

Arguably, all you can do, is remove everything every time your bike is out of sight.

(Your position is exacerbated in the SE where the whole bike is the target for these gangs.)

Its been downhill ever since we let the Scots in...
 
I recommend Pacsafe mesh netting, it saved my clothing & the bag itself from a nice area in Nice once, I'm sure it must have been tramps as they had a really good go at getting it away..
I have 2 sizes & must find them b4 leaving for Garmisch tomorrow
 
A plastic wire cable with loops and then a padlock, pretty well will stop anyone stealing it, unless they have a huge pr bolt croppers or angle grinder in their pocket
 
Thanks all, some decent options. I need one quickly so ended up with this in the end, just intended to make a bit harder, will loop through plastic hooks on dry bag and pillion grips.
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So I now have a bag secured over the pillion seat..... My question is, what security options are tried and tested to stop the opportunist?

You didn't think to ask the bods in the shop you bought it from?

I guess it’s a balance of finding something that does the job...

That's a good place to start, for sure.


ANSWER: A pound of butter in the fridge.

How do I know? From that ever popular mantra heard so often on UKGSer, "You can't beat local knowledge and hands on experience"

How are you so sure, you might ask? Well, that's easy. I have had soft bags of assorted sorts on the back of my motorbikes for, let me see.... um.... 40 years or more. Not once have I secured them with anything much beyond a bungie cord, a cargo net, the free nylon BMW bike tie-downs, Rok Straps (see it's getting posh now) and lately those webbing buckle things. Not lost one yet. Now, if I'd been using a steel mesh sack or steel cables all that time and still not lost anything, I'd be swearing that the Fort Knox like security they were (alleged) to bring was the dog's bollocks. But I haven't, so it can only be the pound of butter.
 
A fair supposition...

Silly question, but is the brand of butter relevant and is it important that it is a pound bar, or will two half pound bars work?
 
Yep I did ask them and they didn't have anything, mentioned possible Touratech to a lockable mesh, that said I just wanted something so it's not just unclick and walk away - having had my first GS stolen in just under a month I'm not quite so trusting as I was but don't want to go overkill.

I also live in London, I occasionally have to stop at local garages etc and whilst it's a great city it's more susceptible to opportunists, just by sheer density of population. So £20 for a little more piece of mind is well worth it In my circumstances.


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Of course OP you are not the first person in the world to have pondered on this:

https://www.adventurebikerider.com/...oft-luggage-from-theft.html?limit=10&start=10 (See in particular the post one from the end)

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/equipment-reviews/soft-luggage-security-53440

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...ety-security-road/soft-luggage-security-58716

http://www.stromtrooper.com/general-v-strom-discussion/165817-stopping-theft-soft-luggage.html

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/soft-luggage-security-poll.823446/

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/securing-soft-luggage.685773/

https://moskoblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/soft-luggage-security/

And so they go on..... and on.... and on.... all found by Googling just four words: 'securing soft motorcycle luggage' which is a lot less words - and hence less effort - than your opening post. The other great thing is that the comments, replies and solutions are garnered from around the world, so not just limited to the very small pool of knowledge that resides in the upper expense end of BMW 1200 WC ownership. Free your mind from the type of bike you own (it is after all only a water cooled two pot engine bolted between two wheels, the whole thing then given a name by some bod in Bavaria who probably drives a car) and let your imagination roam free, as a true Adventure bikermate's inquisitive spirit should.

PS Don't forget the pound of butter in the fridge.

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A fair supposition...

Silly question, but is the brand of butter relevant and is it important that it is a pound bar, or will two half pound bars work?

I'm vegan so don't use butter. So far though a tub of 'Pure' (no animal products guaranteed) marg has kept my world safe and worry free :)

Andres
 
Having a blunt pencil in a draw. I hear that works, too. Though it cannot alone be relied on to deter elephants, which is the real purpose of the pound of butter in the fridge. Motorbike security is just a happy by-product. Trust me.
 
I'm vegan so don't use butter. So far though a tub of 'Pure' (no animal products guaranteed) marg has kept my world safe and worry free :)

Andres


SHHHHHH If the elephants hear about veggie butter there will be a stampede ( do elephants stampede) to hippy house
 


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