hi ty, been following ur treads all good fun,some weird ones but hey ho! still not shure of my dates but if ur thinking of black forrest ,think about going free autos in france then lux then ger and down the rhine it saves on tolls for one and gets you down there fast,my only advise is think of two days down,three to sightsee and two back.good route if you like is down to lake constance, Lindau then thro to anderrmat,chamonix and back thro jura hills. be watching ur thread and let you kno how i go ...happy trails


