Should I ditch my Nav V?

[glenn2926]

The roads I like to use predate Bartholomew's 1971 by a few hundred years

I’ve still got a few of the OS fabric maps and surprisingly the old roads are on them too. The farmers using drove roads and the Romans building new roads certainly knew how to build things to last.

 

[Wapping]

Thanks, I’ll just keep using what I have and not update it anymore. It’s not like that many new roads are getting built.

Maybe not where you live, but we have them appearing all over, up to and including a new tunnel under the Thames. Here it is, all but ready to go….

 

[Wapping]

I’ve still got a few of the OS fabric maps and surprisingly the old roads are on them too. The farmers using drove roads and the Romans building new roads certainly knew how to build things to last.

I have my grandfather’s A to Z of south east England. No M1 and no A406 North Circular.

 

[Wapping]

The roads I like to use predate Bartholomew's 1971 by a few hundred years

So do you

 

[Sneldog]

I use a Mac, Basecamp and an XT with no real problems. My mate has an XT 2 though and it is incompatible with Basecamp.

I’ve looked at MRA and will move to it when obsolescence catches up with my current setup.

 

[Wapping]

I’d suggest that MyRoute has rendered BaseCamp (of which I was a big fan) obsolete.

 

[Wapping]

It sounds like the OP has resolved his Nav V woes.

 

[Becksy]

It sounds like the OP has resolved his Nav V woes.

Yes indeed, but I am guessing they could rear their head again. Waiting on a new SD card to see if that freshens things up. I did get a new battery for it as well which I installed yesterday, not logical that that made a difference.

Anyway, still investigating alternatives. I have been looking at MRA, Kurviger, Scenic and Calimoto for planning, and also thinking about an XT. This would be a worthwhile purchase in case my next bike is not a BMW, though unfortunately not compatible with BMW Nav prep though I know there are adaptors out there for that.

 

[the woodster]

I sold my absolutely reliable and solid Nav V on this forum recently as I've got a BMW ConnectedRide Navigator and one of those Carpuride units. When I was preparing it for sale, I did a hard reset on it and deleted all the user data. I was surprised by how much this increased its response speed. Maybe give that a try? I have embraced MRA wholeheartedly and getting routes from there to the two units above is so much easier. All these things have advantages and disadvantages. IMHO a lot of riders simply do not know how to use their sat navs to best advantage and then blame mishaps on it. I used to be one of those people, so I am self-aware.

 

[Becksy]

I was surprised by how much this increased its response speed.

Yes, as part of this issue I had I did completely clean and reset the Nav, and the response speed has greatly improved, especially connecting to my Mac.

 

[mw3230]

I’d suggest that MyRoute has rendered BaseCamp (of which I was a big fan) obsolete.

Wapping, given the amount of effort you put into trying to get the Connected App/TFT to perform satisfactorily, are you still using it with MRA, or have you kicked it into touch?

 

[Wapping]

Wapping, given the amount of effort you put into trying to get the Connected App/TFT to perform satisfactorily, are you still using it with MRA, or have you kicked it into touch?

I still use the Connected App / TFT, running bespoke routes that I’ve created in MyRoute. I run it via a scraficial Android phone which sits, either in the (undersized) cubbyhole or, more usually, in a powered tank bag.

As Mzokk does, I sometimes have all three (XT, sacrificial iPhone and sacrificial Android) all running the same MyRoute route simultaneously. Why? Simply because I can then see how they each differ in use. The all have their qualities and quirks. Which is better? That’s a very good question, the answer to which will be very much down to personal taste and / or experience gained through use. That said, as Mzokk said, the phone based MyRoute Navigation app is now very good as a standalone navigation device, just on its own. Would I use it if it was running on anything but a sacrificial phone? No.

Once you like the MyRoute Navigation app, you might as well create bespoke routes in MyRoute, too. The advantages of a cloud based app and ‘library of routes’ over say, Garmin’s BaseCamp are pretty obvious. Similarly, its ability to send routes from the app to my XT very reliably is a clear bonus, too.

Others will have other opinions, hardware, apps and uses, which is great. Each to their own.

 

[GrinningGSer]

I’ve left my awesome NavV and Basecamp behind and graduated to XT2 and its Tread app .
The latter is very good , so much so that Basecamp rarely used now .
Tread cannot programme timed stops in a route ( eg lunch stops ) , but I can live with that . Tread’s ability to store files in named collections gives me great enjoyment.
Basecamp is still occasionally used for conversions of tracks /routes
If I use Basecamp , then I do not transfer gpx; I share the file direct to the tread app. It is a relief not having to connect XT2 to Basecamp .

 

[Mzokk]

I’ve left my awesome NavV and Basecamp behind and graduated to XT2 and its Tread app .
The latter is very good , so much so that Basecamp rarely used now .
Tread cannot programme timed stops in a route ( eg lunch stops ) , but I can live with that . Tread’s ability to store files in named collections gives me great enjoyment.
Basecamp is still occasionally used for conversions of tracks /routes
If I use Basecamp , then I do not transfer gpx; I share the file direct to the tread app. It is a relief not having to connect XT2 to Basecamp .

Good to hear of positive experiences with the Tread app. I like my XT the screen is great but its not WYSIWYG with Basecamp. For the XT the Explore website can be made the repository of routes but its a faff and does not sync in the ways expected and the site may or may not be available at any given moment. The explore phone app does not allow effective route plotting for motorcycles. The drive app is good and allows transfer of GPX files to the unit wirelessly. To be honest I think that Garmin's on line ecosystem for Zumo's is a bit of a mess and don't understand why they don't simplify it a bit more. For now I still use Basecamp and increasingly MRA, which work well with the XT. If MRA routeplanner is improved to handle POI's and tracks better, then Basecamp might be abandoned by me entirely.

 

[Becksy]

I’ve left my awesome NavV and Basecamp behind and graduated to XT2 and its Tread app .
The latter is very good , so much so that Basecamp rarely used now .
Tread cannot programme timed stops in a route ( eg lunch stops ) , but I can live with that . Tread’s ability to store files in named collections gives me great enjoyment.
Basecamp is still occasionally used for conversions of tracks /routes
If I use Basecamp , then I do not transfer gpx; I share the file direct to the tread app. It is a relief not having to connect XT2 to Basecamp .

Been investigating that combo today. It seems to make sense, but then looking at the Zumo User Forum no-one there seems happy with the Tread app. I've had a look at it and it seems alright to me. Looks like they continuously improve it, though the update history in the App Store doesn't tell you what they have updated, they obviously like to keep that to themselves. But the updates do seem regular.

 

[GrinningGSer]

I’ve had issues with Tread and at one stage Tread completely stopped its search results . This I remarked on in Zumo forums ( so some if the moaning could have been me ). At length reported this to Garmin , who listened but couldn’t fix . Suddenly It all started working again and it’s been good ever since for the last months . I like Tread;
Collections ( Tread stores your gpx waypoints and routes , in folders that you name , which is awesome )
Sharing ( so very easy to share entire collections or individual gpx , for example by WhatsApp )
Importing ( similar )
Then it all magically appears in your XT2