My Mac won’t see my Nav V

[NorfolkEnchants]

In common with many Garmin devices, when you delete a route from the Trip Planner, it lives on within the device itself. This is good in that a route can be re-imported, if (for instance) you deleted a route by error or want to amend it. The trouble then comes in that the device then fills with lots and lots of deleted routes. This is not a problem per-se, as stored routes take up very little space. It is simply a problem in as as much as, I don’t want to be confronted with an every growing list of old deleted routes.

The only method I know to clear them out is to connect the XT to home computer and delete them from there. My question though is, has anyone had any success (short of a hard re-set) in deleting them any other way?

For example, if I buy a USB mini-B to USB C lead, will my iPad or iPhone or Samsung Android phone, see the XT as a drive, allow me to access the folder of old routes and delete them?

It seems odd that Garmin goes down the wi-fi connection route for software and map updates and makes route transfer very easy via Garmin Drive, but makes the clearing out of old routes so tricky. Why, on the XT itself, you cannot fully delete old routes, I don’t know. It would be fine if it flashed up a warming, asking if you were sure you wanted to delete the old routes, as the operation could not be undone but, no.

Anyone any ideas or know any method of deleting old routes WITHOUT using a home computer?

Thanks.

I'm having the same issue with the old routes clogging up the list of routes that can be imported. I have about 50+ routes from tours I did 5+ years ago, so now when I want to import a new one I have to search through this ever-growing list. Pain!

I'm using a BMW Navigator V (made by Garmin) and at home I use an iMac computer. When I had a "chat" with a guy from Garmin support, he basically said that I have to connect to a Windows computer and delete the old routes from there - but that's bullshit, isn't it?

If I can see all the files on the Garmin's internal storage from the Finder window (having made the Hidden / System files visible) I don't see why Garmin can say that it has to be done from a PC rather than a Mac. Surely the files the Garmin creates and stores in its internal memory are the same regardless of what computer you try to look at them from. Aren't they??

Anyway, looking through all the files on the whole of the internal storage, and on the SD card installed, I can't see any file at all that seems to be the one that would include the old deleted routes (that appear in the list that can be reimported).

Does anyone know the name and location of the file that contains these old routes? Is it one file that contains all the old routes, or one file for each route?

This is really driving me round the bend at the moment, and Garmin aren't any help whatsoever. All they said was that my device is now discontinued, and that I should use a PC rather than a Mac. Absolutely useless!

Someone please help!!

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Moved from the XT sub-section, as the problem relates to a Nav V not an XT.

Richard

 

[Wapping]

Post #26

Install Commander 1 onto your Mac.

See:

XT not recognised in BaseCamp on a Mac.... a possible answer and work around

It seems the XT is an android device, so it comes into conflict with a Mac. Post 465 in this thread https://advrider.com/f/threads/garmin-zumo-xt.1431553/page-24 over on an Adventure Rider might be of interest. Leaving that aside, the owner seems jolly happy with his purchase.

www.ukgser.com

 

[NorfolkEnchants]

Post #26

Install Commander 1 onto your Mac.

See:

XT not recognised in BaseCamp on a Mac.... a possible answer and work around

It seems the XT is an android device, so it comes into conflict with a Mac. Post 465 in this thread https://advrider.com/f/threads/garmin-zumo-xt.1431553/page-24 over on an Adventure Rider might be of interest. Leaving that aside, the owner seems jolly happy with his purchase.

www.ukgser.com

Wapping - Thanks for responding.
I've now installed Commander 1 onto my Mac but I don't see how it actually helps me. Yes, I have two windows to look at the files on the Mac / Garmin / SD card, but I'm not seeing any extra files that I couldn't see before.
Having delved a bit further I can see that in the GPX folder (whether it's the one on the internal storage or on an SD card installed) each "live" route has a "Route.gpx" file (eg Route24.gpx). That file is just for one route - the name of which you can see in the "name" element within the file (using a text editor to open the file and search for "name"). The number of these Route.gpx files corresponds to the number of routes I can see in BaseCamp. So the "Import List Routes" don't seem to have a ".gpx" file in the GPX folder. So where are they?
I'm sure if I could only find the .gpx files that correspond to the Import List, I could get rid of the old obsolete ones and clean up the "Import" list of routes. Does anybody using a PC (rather than a Mac) see any ".gpx" files that relate to "Import List" routes. Are they the files that people have spoken about deleting on their PCs?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

 

[Wapping]

I now see that your problem relates to a Nav V not to an XT device, so I have moved your post from the XT sub-section.

I believe that Garmin’s help desk reference to devices needing to be connected to a PC and / or the installation of Commander 1 (if using a Mac) maybe related to newer devices from the XT series onwards, not to older devices, such as the BMW branded Navigator series.

See this thread https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/nav5-delete-old-routes-so-i-cant-import-them.300972/#:~:text=If you want to permanently,routes and favourites are stored. For help with your Nav V.


Note: The thread link above relates to two separate things:

1. A fellow being unsure that routes he was creating in BaseCamp on his Mac were transferring properly to his Nav V device. This part probably doesn’t apply to you.

2. The same fellow being unable to delete routes on his Nav V device. This part probably does relate to you.

Both problems were resolved successfully.

Let us know how you get on, please.

 

[Bloomers100]

My mac wasnt seeing that I connected my TomTom 550, I needed the MyDrive download for the computer and a mac to android tool. That showed an explorer type view that I could drag my files to from documents I am away at the moment so can't show anything but I get the frustration.

 

[NorfolkEnchants]

Wapping - Thanks for responding.
I've now installed Commander 1 onto my Mac but I don't see how it actually helps me. Yes, I have two windows to look at the files on the Mac / Garmin / SD card, but I'm not seeing any extra files that I couldn't see before.
Having delved a bit further I can see that in the GPX folder (whether it's the one on the internal storage or on an SD card installed) each "live" route has a "Route.gpx" file (eg Route24.gpx). That file is just for one route - the name of which you can see in the "name" element within the file (using a text editor to open the file and search for "name"). The number of these Route.gpx files corresponds to the number of routes I can see in BaseCamp. So the "Import List Routes" don't seem to have a ".gpx" file in the GPX folder. So where are they?
I'm sure if I could only find the .gpx files that correspond to the Import List, I could get rid of the old obsolete ones and clean up the "Import" list of routes. Does anybody using a PC (rather than a Mac) see any ".gpx" files that relate to "Import List" routes. Are they the files that people have spoken about deleting on their PCs?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

In that last message, the thumbs down icon must be the result of putting the letter n between brackets. Sorry about that. The query still stands though. Can anyone help?

 

[Berin]

See post #8 in this thread.

Deleting routes

In common with many Garmin devices, when you delete a route from the Trip Planner, it lives on within the device itself. This is good in that a route can be re-imported, if (for instance) you deleted a route by error or want to amend it. The trouble then comes in that the device then fills with...

www.ukgser.com

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I have moved and mildly edited #7 and #6 to keep NortolkEnchants’ questions about his Nav V and his deletion of routes from it, out of a thread about an XT.

Richard

 

[NorfolkEnchants]

I now see that your problem relates to a Nav V not to an XT device, so I have moved your post from the XT sub-section.

I believe that Garmin’s help desk reference to devices needing to be connected to a PC and / or the installation of Commander 1 (if using a Mac) maybe related to newer devices from the XT series onwards, not to older devices, such as the BMW branded Navigator series.

See this thread https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/nav5-delete-old-routes-so-i-cant-import-them.300972/#:~:text=If you want to permanently,routes and favourites are stored. For help with your Nav V.


Note: The thread link above relates to two separate things:

1. A fellow being unsure that routes he was creating in BaseCamp on his Mac were transferring properly to his Nav V device. This part probably doesn’t apply to you.

2. The same fellow being unable to delete routes on his Nav V device. This part probably does relate to you.

Both problems were resolved successfully.

Let us know how you get on, please.

Thanks for all your help so far - it's much appreciated. Your Note 2 is exactly the issue.
I'm still struggling with these old routes the Nav5 still shows as available to import, as they don't have their own GPX files in the GPX folder, and they're not mentioned in the Temp.gpx file either, so I don't see how I can delete them if I can't actually find them.

Based on the solution to the earlier guy's problem,
1. I connected my Nav5 to my Mac, and deleted all the GPX files for the "Valid" routes" that I'd created recently for an upcoming tour.
2. I also deleted the temp.gpx file that I'd found in the Garmin's internal storage (even though it didn't have any mention of any of the old routes).
3. I also deleted the Waypoints.gpx file. This file had contained a few friends' addresses and destinations used in routes, but which I can re-enter later.
4. I re-named the "Current.gpx" and "CurrentTrackLog.gpx" files, giving them an "Old" prefix, and created new "Current.gpx" and "CurrentTrackLog.gpx" files with no content - in the belief that the Garmin would re-write the contents with an updated version based on there being no routes at all anywhere on the device or my computer.
5. I then emptied the Bin/Trash and disconnected the Nav5 from the Mac, and started up the Nav5.
6. As expected, the recent/valid routes had disappeared from the Importable routes list. However - I still see the old redundant outer from years ago that I no longer want. That doesn't tie in to what the other guy found.
7. I re-connected the Nav5 to my Mac and looked at the GPX folders on "Garmin" (the Nav5) and on the SD Card. On the Garmin the system has re-written the "Current.gpx" and "CurrentTrackLog.gpx" files (as I suspected, and hoped, it would), but I was surprised to see that the "Current.gpx" file seems to be an exact replica of what was there before, including the waypoint details for the friends' addresses and destinations that were there before, and that were in the Waypoints.gpx file that I deleted at step 3, and purged from the Mac at step 5.

SO - I'm still struggling to find out where these damned obsolete routes are being stored!

I'll carry on looking later.

 

[Wapping]

SO - I'm still struggling to find out where these damned obsolete routes are being stored!

I'll carry on looking later.

See post #7

PS When deleting routes on the Mac, it is sometimes a good idea to clean the Mac’s files afterwards. They are sometimes prone to ‘keeping’ things which have been deleted, apparently.