Sidestand Lean

[Warthog]

I have just packed my bike with all the stuff that I we will be taking on our trip to Argentina. Seems enough to fill a small flat, but each bit seems to have justified its place: courtesy of my over-active imagination. After all you never know when we may need a pair of obstaetric forceps...

The plan is to ride it to Slough where my friendly MOT man has agreed to let us use his wheel scales to measure the weight over the back wheel and hence, hopefully a good indication of weight through therear sub-frame, which has been my biggest worry since I estimate a load of about 237kg (also the motivation for the 3 Kg I have lost over the last 3 weeks!).

Anyway, waffle over... Why is it that laden as it is the bike seems to lean more on the side stand? It seems logical to me that with more weight being pulkled directly down and only a portion of it on the outside of the side-stand, if anything the bike would be sitting upright more as the rear-shock compresses under the weight.

At present, I can virtually turn the bars lock to lock, with minimal resistance: scary

 

[Timolgra]

Get yourself an ice hockey puck, a fiver off ebay, and screw it to the bottom of your side stand

 

[Steve]

Get yourself an ice hockey puck, a fiver off ebay,

£2.50 from an ice-hockey rink.

 

[Timolgra]

£2.50 from an ice-hockey rink.

£30 petrol to get there

 

[Spout]

Get yourself an ice hockey puck,

Won't that melt before getting to Argentina?

 

[Warthog]

Oi you lot!!

Read the forum heading: Technical

I have now about 310 kg of bike I'm trying to keep up right, so useful posts the majority please....

And my question was why does the bike lean over rather than up-right with the added weight as the spring should be being compressed....?

I realise the solution is to lengthen the sidestand

 

[Timolgra]

I have and ADV rear Ohlins shock, rebuilt by Maxton engineering with a stiffer than standard spring. You might wish to consider the same.

 

[Steptoe]

Oi you lot!!

Read the forum heading: Technical

And my question was why does the bike lean over rather than up-right with the added weight as the spring should be being compressed....?

They are being serious about the hockey puck - cheapest and simplest fix plus non slip.

It leans over more because more weight over the center of gravity , it'll lean over even more with a full tank of fuel .

 

[Iain Hogg]

They are being serious about the hocket puck - cheapest and simplest fix plus non slip.

But when you take all the weight off, the bike is frighteningly vertical on the side stand

 

[Steptoe]

I repaced my standard side stand with an ADV longer side stand.

I doubt if there's half inch difference in length , but it helped, a bit.

 

[cookie]

I repaced my standard side stand with an ADV longer side stand.

I doubt if there's half inch difference in length , but it helped, a bit.

me too, and it helped a bit.

has the advantage of not making your bike appear to have a club foot

 

[Bronco Billy]

Is this a daft idea...?

Drill through the base of the centre stand from the bottom up into the stand itself and then tap out a thread to take a Bigish bolt and lock nut......it would be adjustable as well..........

If it works I bag the patent rites and want it known as....."Bronco`s Big extention" on this site.........

 

[Timolgra]

Is this a daft idea...?

 

[Bronco Billy]

Is this a daft idea...?

Drill through the base of the centre stand from the bottom up into the stand itself and then tap out a thread to take a Bigish bolt and lock nut......it would be adjustable as well..........

If it works I bag the patent rites and want it known as....."Bronco`s Big extention" on this site.........

Doh..........what a twat......I meant side stand................

 

[Tsiklonaut]

Weight distribution

That's why i recommend puting some ADV or TT41L tank, instead like some travelling wierdos separately carrying huge fuel canisters on/under or/in the panniers, and on even the moderate acceleration the front wheel loses contact and complain about the bike's stability

Touratech VP or the Bagster thingy tank bags are also the best ones i know - they have the possibility to put more weight onto front side and they also keep the Centre of Gravity low with the side-bags

Trash your sky-high and huge solid top boxes into the nearest recycle bin if doing third-world bad road riding - they're good for the european smooth roads, but anywhere else use a "elastic" waterproof luggage roll for a much better long term investmet that includes alot less hassle with the rear subframe cracks'n'brakings, vibrations, also much improved overall bike's stability-handling (weight lower and lifted nearer to the centre of the bike) and also considerably lower CoG to pick up the fallen bike or in the sharper maneuvering action the bike feels much lighter to handle, in my experience. I use top box only going to work in the city to secure the helmet, never using it on travels (had a lot of bad experiences with the top boxes previously).